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THE COURT: No. No. Was that so or |
wasn't it go?

THE WITNESS: According to that
newspaper article, I got it mixed up.

THE COURT: Never mind the newspaper
| article. Did you say that to the Chief or did you
| not?

THE WITNESS: I couldn't tell him
something that hadn't happened,

THE COURT: Did you tell him that or
Jj did you not?
| THE WITNESS: So I guess the anewer ts
| no,
THE COURT: You did not.
é THE WITNESS: But I told him all the
other things.

BY MR. KUNSTLER:

Q All right. And when you were recalling back on
February 28 of 1982, did you go back to look at

newspapers or look at television clips?

r No.

Or were you using your memory?

Just my memory.
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All right. And now you know you must have been
mistaken about the rugby bombing; is that correct?
Yes, That was a fear I had all day Monday,

And with reference to --

I mean Tuesday,

Tuesday, I know it's hard to recall,

All day Tuesday I was afraid that when this was
over, that when I got home, my house wouldn't be
there,

But when you called the Chief on Monday aight with
reference to the situation, did you tell him abouc
the peculiar things on your telephone, to the best
of your recollection?

Yes, and cars following me home also,

And did you tell him about people stopping you ia
the street?

I don't think I mentioned that to him except the
phone calls and cars following me. I remember I
told him that,

And you were plenty scared, were you not?

I was scared,

But all I'm asking about is independent of this

bomb or what have you, was there anything in your

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being scared that related to this man sitting in
this chair, Michael Young?

No. Mike is one of the people who I had hoped
was out there protecting me.

MR, KUNSTLER: Thank you. I have no

further questions.

THE COURT: Mr, Oliver, anything

further?

MR. OLIVER: No, Judge.

THE COURT: Mr. Katzer, anything
further?

MR, KATZER: No, Judge.

THE COURT: Very well. That's all.
Thank you.

Call your next witness, please.

MR. OLIVER: Michael Young, your
Honor.

MICHAEL YOUNG,

having first been duly sworn, was examined and

testified as follows:
IRECT INATION

BY MR. OLIVER:

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Mx, Young, would you indicate for the jury your

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COUNTY OF ALBANY

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THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK,

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MICHAEL R. YOUNG and JOHN H. SPEARMAN, JRe,» ’

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TES TIMONY OF PAUL DALY

HON. JOHN J, CLYNE,

Albany County Oourt Judge, and a Jury

For the People:
HON. SOL GREENBERG,
Albany County District Attorney,

BY: MICHAEL KATZER,
Assistant District Attomey

For the DEFENDANT YOUNG:
WILLIAM M. KUNSTLER, ESQ.,
Attomey at Law,

853 Broadway,

New York, New York 10003

For the DEFENDANT SPEARMAN :
LEWIS B. OLIVER, JR., ESQ.,
Attomey at Law, :

31 Barclay Street,

Albany, New York

DEFENDANTS, In Person
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS in the

above entitled matter held at a trial term of the Albany

County Court at the Albany County Courthouse at Albany,

New York, on March 3, 1982.

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PAUL DAL Zs»
called by the Defendant Young, after first

having been duly sworn according to law,

was examined and testified as follows:

DIRECT EXAMINATION

Q Mr, Daly, sir, would you indicate your name for
the jury?

A My name is Paul Daly, I'ma special agent
in charge of the F.B.1. office in Albany.

Q@ You are in charge of the P.1.1. office in Albany?
A Yes, sir.

Q How long have you been in charge, sir?

A About thirteen months.

Q You were in charge of the office during the period
September, 1981?

A That is correct.

Q Let me ask you this: paring the period September,
1981 and for some period of time prior to that,
were you involved with any investigation concerning
the planned Springboks on and demonstration in
Albany on September 22?

A Yes.

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Q Te investigation that you conducted, would that
| be an investigation called an investigation under
the domestic intelligence guidelines?
MR. KATZER: Objection.
| THE COURT: Sustained.
| BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)
| Q What was that investigation called?
MR. KATZER: Ob jection.
THE COURT: Sustained.
BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd) :
Q Did that investigation involve the groups that
were planning to sretest against the Springboks
playing in Albany?
| MR, KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled, Yes or no, l
| A Yes. :
| Q Did it involve the Springboks team themselves?
A No,
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Q So it involved only the demonstrators, is that
correct?
A That's correct.
fed Was it focused on the Communist Workers Party?
MR. KATZER: Objection.
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THE COURT: Sustained.
BY MR, OLIVER: (cont'd)
be All right. What was the focus of your

investigation?
MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.
BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)
Q What group, if any, were you investigating?
MR, KATZER: Objection.
TE COURT: Sustained. There is no
| group on trial here. Two defendants are on trial.
BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)
Q Did you, in the course of your investigation, have
occasion to investigate Michael Young?
A I don't recall a specific investigation
involving Michael Young.
Q Do you recall his name coming up in the course of
your investigation?
: A Yea.
Q Do vou recall the name of John Spearman coming up
in your investigation?

A Yes.
*) Isn't it a fact that those names came up in

August of 1981?

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A I can't recall at what’ point in time they came
up. I am in charge of the Albany F.8.1. office
but I also handle all of upstate New York and
Vermont. I would not have had direct supervision
of the matter in question. Tf. cannot recall the time|,
Q All right. As part of your investigation did you

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provide information to the Albany Police Department?

A Yes.

Q who, in your office, provided that information?
A 1, in part, provided some, and some by Special

Agent Rose and there may have been information

furnished by other agents. I specifically recall
myself and Mr. Rose. :
Q Did you also provide information to Mayor Corning?
A I may have. .
Se Did you also provide information to Superintendent
Connelie of the New York State Police?
A 1 did not. I'm speaking personally.

"| Do you know if anyone in your office did?

A There was information furnished to the state

police.

*) Did you also provide information to Governor Carey's

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office?

| A To my knowledge, no.

* Now, a8 part of that information did you provide

- information concerning the Ku Klux Klan?

MR, KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

Q As part of that information did you provide
information concerning potential violence at the
demonstration against the Springboks ?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
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va As part of the information about violence was there
reference to the Ku Klux Klan?

MR. KATZER: Objection. ,
THE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

=) Was your office aware that Michael Young and John

Spearman were members of the Communist Workers Party)?

A Yes.
Q when did your office obtain that information?

A 7 don't recall.

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Q Where did your office obtain that information from? V4

MR. KATZER: Ob fection,
TE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

Q pia you receive communications from the New York
City Intelligence Unit?

MR, KATZER: Ob jection.
THE COURT: Sustained.

Q: Is there anyone in your office, sir, who would be
mére familiar than yourself -- withdrawn, Who was
in charge of this investigation for your office?

MR. KATZER: Ob jection.
THE COURT: Sustained,

Q Who was in charge of the investigation that

involved Michael Young and John Spearman?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: If you kmow.
A Well, in charge in what genase’ We have a
special agent in charge and then under him we have
an assistant special agent in charge. Under him a
supervisor, Under him an agent. There would be
an investigative agent assigned to a particular

matter. That agent was Mr. Rose, 3 |

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Q I'm not familiar with the structure. When was
Mr. Rose assigned to this investigation, if you can
remember?
MR. KATZER: Objection,
THE COURT: I fail to see the
relevancy here. Sustained,

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)
Q Did your office provide informatia to the Albany

Police Department concerning Mr, Young and Mr,
Spearman?
A Yea.
fa De you know when that was?
A No. I can't recall.
THE COURT: Was it prior to
September 217
THE WITNESS: Yes,

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd) |

wat Did your office, as part of that investigation,

% provide information to the Albany Police Department
concerning the organization mown as Stop The
Apartheid Rugby Tour?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained,

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- A Yes. I don't have any recollection of it.

Was your office aware that Mr. Young was a member
of SART, the organization to stop the apartheid
rugby tour?

A I have no recollection.

Would the same hold true for Mr. § pearman ?

And the type of investigation that you conducted,
did it involve informers?
MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.

How did your agency obtain information concerning

Mr, Young and Mr. Spearman?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained. What, if
any, information did you personally provide to the
Albany Police Department prior to September 21

concerning your investigation of the proposed rugby

game in Albany, if you know?

THE WITNESS: My recollection is -- |

THE COURT: What did you --
THE WITNESS: I, personally, on two

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occasions provided information. On one occasion
I was at a meeting at the Albany Police Department
attended by state officials, city officials, and
it dealt with certain preparedness for a potential

for violence on that date, I don't recall the date

of this particular meeting. At that time I gave
them a general overview of information that we had
in our possession indicating that there could be
violence on that particular date. The second
occasion that I presented information or gave
information to the Albany Police Department -- I

. can't recall the date but the date was the date
that a search was conducted of a vehicle on SUNY
camps. It was on that evening.

THE COURT: Did you give the
information prior to the search or subsequent to
| the search, if you recall?
| THE WITNESS: My recollection is I

telephonically contacted Mr. Reed. I did not know

there had been a search conducted, when I met with

C ecele Reed the search had been conducted and they had

one gentleman in —— and they recovered «

weapon. That was subsequent to the search,

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that who you are referring to?
THE WITNESS: Yes. He and

Lieutenant Murray were the two I talked to.

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

Q You indicated that you made that call before you
knew there had been any search?
A I called to arrange to meet with them because
we had information that we had to get to them rather
quickly.

Q About what time was that call made?
A I don't mow. Itgwas after I got home. It
was from my residence, It was somewhere after I
got home, I got home usually about 6:30 at night
so I'm guessing it was after 6:30,

*] Do you recall Deputy Commissioner Reed at the Albany
Police headquarters at that time?

THE COURT: Deputy Chief.
bet Deputy chief. I'm sorry.

THE COURT:

THE WITNESS:

That was via telephone?

Telephone and personal

contact,

A Wo, I can't recall exactly. I reached him, I

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pelieve, through the Albany Police Department

switchboard. He was not at the station. I don't
recall specifically how I reached him other than I
aid reach him that night.

a Now, did your office, prior to September 21, have

knowledge of the license plate number of Mr. Young's

car?
i, MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: No, overruled.
A I have no recollection.

Q We have subpoenaed your files concerning Mr. Young
and Mr, Spearman, the Communist Workers Party, and
Vera Michaelson, is that correct?

A Yes.

Q Those files consist of 800 to 1000 pages, is that

| | correct? iA

| | MR. KATZER: Objection,

| THE COURT: Sustained.

Fe BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

| tal You have no recollection whether the license plate

i number was within the knowledge of your office?

MR. KATZER: Objection, Asked and

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THE COURT: Sustained,

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd) ,

Q Have you examined the files of your office in
relation to Mr. Young and Mr, Spearman at any time
in the recent past?

A’ No.

Q I would like to focus on the first meeting that you
indicated you personally attended with the Albany
Police Department. What is your best estimate of
the date of that meeting? Was it in September?

A I would hate to guess. It could have been late
August, early September, but I don't know.

Q It was before the governor and the mayor engaged in
public debate concerning whe ther the game should be
atopped?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained,
* was it before September 10th, can you recall?
MR. KATZER: Objection. je hes
anawered to the best of his recollectia,
THE COURT: No. If you recall.
A The pest I recall «- I would hesitate to guess +-

it was early September, late August. Somewhere in

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there. I don't recall.

be Can you recall who was present at that meeting?
A It would have probably been twenty people,
twenty-one, Some of whom I have never seen before
or since. I don't recall exactly. Mayor Corning
came in and left. He was there at some point in
time. There were representatives of the state
police, Major Halloran, I think Captain Looney.
There was a representative of the Albany Police
Department -- I mean, fire department, rather.
There was, of course, Chief Burke. I believe

Deputy Chief Reed. I believe Lieutenant Murray.

There were some people from Civil Defense, as I

recall, and there were others I'm sure but I just
have no recollectia.
Q At that meeting was the Communist Workers Party or

John Spearman or Michael Young discussed?
A I have no recollection,

TE COURT: Were either of the
defendants discussed by name?

THE WITNESS: I don't recall.

THE COURT: John Spearman or Michael

Young? Do you have any recollection of specifically

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discussing either or both of those individuals?

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THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)
Q Were there any other members of the Communist
Workers Party in Albany who were active in
organizing the demonstration other than Mr.

Spearman and Mr. Young?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained,
fed At this meeting you indicated you had discussed the

potential for violence at the demons tration?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: You're referring to the
witness, I assume?

MR. OLIVER: Yes, sir.

THE COURT: Overruled,
A My recollection of the meeting in question was
I outlined information we had received which

indicated planned violence to those that were in

attendance,

Q All right. and in the information you outlined did

you talk about Michael Young?

A I don't recall.

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BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

Q

Did you know about Michael Young at that time?

MR, KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Overruled,
A Well, I'm not sure at what point in time we
leamed of him. We certainly did give information
regarding him to the police, ‘The question ig when,
I'm not sure I had it prior to that meeting or
subs e quent.
You saw him on television too, isn't that right?
He made public statements and so forth?

MR, KATZER: Objection.

THE OOURT: Did you see him on

television?

TE WITNESS: I may have, Your Honor,
I was discussing what was out of our files. Not

what I gaw on television.

As part of the information that you provided to the
Albany police concerning violence, did you indicate

to them that the Ku Klux Klan might come to Albany

te do violence to Michael Young or other members of

the Communist Workers Party?

A No, }

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Q Are you aware «-

A Excuse me a second, Would you go over that

question again to make sure I heard it right?

(The pending question was reread as
follows: "As part of the information that you
provided to the Albany police concerning violence,
did you indicate to them that the Ku Klux Klan
might come to Albany to do violence to Michael
Young or other members of the Communist Workers
Party ?" )

A The answer is no,

Q At the meeting in late August or early September
was information presented concerning Ku Klux Klan
members potentially doing violence to Mr. young or
other members of the Communist Workers Party by
any other agency, to your personal knowledge?

MR. KATZER: Objectia, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Suetained.

BY MR. OLIVER: (oont'd)

Q During the period September, 1961, did you have
eccasion to obtain information from Thomas

Selfridge?
MR. KATZER! Objection.

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Q

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

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THE COURT: Sustained,
Did you have occasion to obtain information from
Thomas Selfridge about Michael Young or John
8 pearman? :

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained,
Turning your attention to September 21, 1981 for a
moment, if I may, you indicated that you made a
telephone call to Deputy Chief Reed?
A I am not sure whether I talked to Deputy Chief
Reed on the phone or Lieutenant Murray but eventually
it led to a meeting with both.
You indicated you placed that call approximately
6:30 P.M,?

MR. KATZER: Objection. That is not
what he testified. )

THE COURT: Do you recall when you
made the call?

TIE WITNESS: My recollection is
that it was after I aowived home. How long after, I
an not sure, I generally arrive home at 6:30. I

believe that is what I gaid,

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BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

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BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

You made the call shortly after you arrived home?
A I don't recall what proximity it was to my
arrival home except that is the time I do generally
arrive home,
You spoke with Lieutenant Murray at that time
initially?
a Telephonically I don't recall which one I
talked to. It led to a meeting with both.

THE COURT: Was the purpose of the
call to set up a meeting?

TE WITNESS: That is correct.

Can I ask you what, if any, information you
imparted to Lieutenant Murray or Deputy chief Reed
over the telephone at the time of your initial call?
A I can't recall specifically what I told them
other than it dealt with the potential for violence,
Did it deal with Michael Young or John Spearman?
A I quite frankly don't recall. a
Did it deal with the Communist Workers Party?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained,

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BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

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BY MR. KATZER:

Q

What was the source of the information that you
were imparting to the Albany police? 4
MR, KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.

Had Agent Rose given you this information?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained, Let me ask
you Witat On the Zist of Septenber, 1981, between
7 and 8 P.M. were you at the SUNY campus?

THE WITNESS: No,

MR. OLIVER: I have no further
questions. Thank you, sir,

THE COURT: Mr. Katzer?

CROSS EXAMINATION

Special Agent Daly, on September 2ist, 19681 or prior
to September 2lst, 1961, had you personally ever
given any information with respect to the Def endan ta
Spearman and Young to SUNY Police officer Michael
Lascoe?
A No.

MR, KATZER: Thank you.

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MR, KUNSTLER: I just have a few,
Judge, and then I will be dome,

CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. KUNSTLER:

i" Agent Daly, my name ie William Kunstler, I don't
think we have met, have we?
A No, we have not.

*) You are what is known as SAC, are you not? A
special agent in charge? All I want to know
essentially is that prior to September 21, 1981
that you gave information to the Albany Police
Department that there was a potential for violence
around the Springboks, the scheduled arrival of the
Springboks, to have a rugby game here in Albany,
New York?

A That's correct.

Sei All right. I just want to know one more factor.
How long have you been a member of the Pederal
Bureau of Investigation?

A Seventeen years.

we During mat period of time is it not a fact that the

Wederal Bureau of Investigation has admitted

committing crimes in order to prevent violence?

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MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. KUNSTIER: (cont'd)

fed You are familiar with the convictions of Mark Felt
and William Miller, are you not?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained,

Q In any event during any of your discussions with any,
of the Albany Police Department did you, yourself,
advocate in any way the commission of illegal acts
for what you considered to be a good purpose, the
prevention of violence?

MR. KATZER: Objection.
ved During the Springboks tour here,
MR, KATZER: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
A No.
MR. KUNSTLER: Thank you very mach.
THE COURT: Let me ask you one other
question, Did you ever see a silver grey Mercury
Monarch bearing license plate 507-JVD?
THE WITNESS: No.
THE COURT: On September 21, 1961?

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THE WITNESS: No,
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of this witness? |
MR. KUNSTIER: No.
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STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY COURT COUNTY OF ALBANY

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK,
~ against -
MICHAEL R. YOUNG and JOHN H. SPEARMAN, JR.,

Defendants.

BEFORE 3
HON. JOHN J, CLYNE,
Albany County Court Judge, and a eas

APPEARANCES :

HON. SOL GREENBERG,

Albany County District Attorney,
BY: MICHAEL KATZER,

Assistant District Attorney

For the DEFENDANT YOUNG:
WILLIAM M. KUNSTLER, ESQ.,
Attorney at Law,

853 Broadway,

New York, New York 10003

For the DEFENDANT 3 PEARMAN :
LEWIS B. OLIVER, JR., ESQ.,
Attorney at Law,
31 Barclay Street,
Albany, New York

DEFENDANTS, In Person

For the People: |
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TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS in the
above entitled matter held at a trial term of the Albany
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County Court at the Albany County Courthouse at Albany,

New York, on March 3, 1962.

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TE COURT: let the record indicate
the presence of the defendants, their respective
counsel. The People are represented by Mr. Katzer,.

Let the record further indicate the
presence of the fourteen sworn jurors.

You may examine, Mr. Oliver,

MR, OLIVER: Thank you, Your Honor.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. OLIVER:

fog Officer Tanchak, I believe you indicated that your
assignment in the police department was with the
Narcotics Enforcement, is that correct?

A That's correct.

Q And was that your assignment on September 21 and
22, 19817
A That's correct.

Q You indicated that you were the officer who
obtained a warrant and was in more or less charge
of the search of the apartment of 400 Central
Avenue, is that correct?

A bi obtained the warrant. I wasn't in charge.
Wo, sir.

owe You arrested Mike Young?

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BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

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A That's correct.
Now, I want to ask you what information, if any,
did you have concerning Mike Young before you
arrested him?

MR. KATZER: Objection,

THE COURT: Sustained,

To your knowledge had you or other members of the
Albany Police Department conducted surveillance
on Mr. Young prior to his arrest?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Overruled,
A I did not, sir, and I have no idea if anyone
else did.
You received no information concerning whether other
members of the Albany Police Department conducted
surveillance on Mr, Young?
A As I said, I have no idea,
All right. Do you have any information concerning
whether any members of other police agencies such
as the F.B.I. or the State Police conducted
surveillance on Mr. Young?

A As I said, I have no idea,

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Q

Now, did you have any information that Mr. Young
had possessed the weapon?
MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. OLIVER: (cont'd)

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well, did you have any reason to believe that
Mr. Young possessed a weapon?

MR. KATZER: Objection.

THE COURT: Sustained.
To your knowledge, prior to the time that Mr. Young
was arrested had you received any information
concerning the license plate number of Mr. Young's
vehicle?
A The information I received was the Car was
recovered earlier as a stolen vehicle.
And when was that?
A Well, I believe the car was recovered
somewhere around 7:30. I was called to the scene
then.
And prior to the time you were called to the
scene -- well, I'll withdraw that. By being
called to the scene you are referring to the

parking let at 7:30, is that correct?

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