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president’s message
Poised Between Past and Future
Change is hard. 
We generally 
consider change 
when we feel 
we need to — 
otherwise what’s 
the motivation to 
do so?
For an organi­
zation it involves 
strategic planning 
that includes bravely questioning basic as­
sumptions and premises, perceptions and 
beliefs. And while this is challenging and 
growthful, it is not always as delightful as 
one might hope — the process also involves 
uncertainty and decisions.
The past can represent certainty, but not 
necessary sustainability.
Our Society was born out of the special 
needs of clinical social workers not met 
elsewhere. A respectable body of work led 
up to independent practice founded on cer­
tification then licensure, and to independent 
reimbursement. Our Society had and contin­
ues to provide a professional home to clini­
cal social workers across the state. A place 
to meet colleagues and friends who share 
IN THIS ISSUE
	 3 Register Now: May 7th 
Annual Conference!
	 9	 The Last Taboo: 
Talking About Money
	12 The Artful Brain: 
Survival Through Creativity 
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Jonathan Morgenstern, 
MSW, LCSW
TH E N EWSLETTE R OF TH E N EW YORK STATE SOCI ETY FOR CLI N ICAL SOCIAL WORK, I NC.
SPRING 2011 | VOL. 42, NO. 1
I
t was a quirk of fate that brought me to 
NYU’s social work school immediately 
out of college in the early 60s. And I was 
painfully aware of my youthful inexperience 
when confronted with the complexities in 
the lives of my clients, who were poor, ill 
and uneducated in the immensity of urban 
New York. 
As a way of mitigating my uneasiness, 
my casework teachers and field supervisors 
assured me that, as a social worker, I would 
always have a supervisor to turn to and 
the mission of whatever agency employed 
me would determine the services I would 
provide. The setting I worked in would de­
termine how I would expand my knowledge 
and use my skills, and supervision and con­
sultation would be perpetually available, if 
not required. Practice autonomy was not to 
Licensing Clinical Social Workers, 
Not Clinical Social Work Practice
By Marsha Wineburgh, DSW, Legislative Chair, President-Elect
be expected, with the exception of private 
practice, which was openly frowned upon. 
This was common clinical social work 
practice then and, understandably, it 
reflected an earlier stage in the history of 
social work’s development as a profession. 
We were the handmaidens of the social 
agencies, working under expert psychiatric 
consultants who made the diagnoses, ap­
proved treatment plans, and reviewed cases.
The setting where clients were served has 
historically determined the type of casework 
that social workers provided. The mission of 
the agency, whether it is a settlement house, 
religious charity program, or a psychiatric 
clinic, structured the services offered and, 
appropriately, still does, in as much as fund­
ing and other resources are directly tied to 
the type social services delivered. 
Newly-Elected Board 
Members and others: Front, 
l. to r., Linda Wright, new 
Member-at-Large; Sandra Jo 
Lane, Suffolk Pres.; Beverly 
Goff, new Rockland Pres., 
and Lorraine Fitzgerald, 
new Nassau Pres. Back row: 
Monica Olivier, new Member-
at-Large, Dore Sheppard, 
new 2nd Vice Pres.; Robert 
Berger, new 1st Vice Pres. 
Not pictured: Marsha 
Wineburgh, new President 
Elect and Elizabeth Ojakian, 
new Board Secretary. 
Newly-Elected Board Members  (See article page 5)
Photo: Sandra Indig
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President’s Message
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a world view, a professional commitment and a professional 
language. A community that offers technical and educational 
supports for the challenges of independent practice. A voice 
in relevant matters of policy and practice.
Our past has formed our identity. But what is our identity? 
This issue keeps returning in discussions by the State Board, 
the Strategic Planning Committee and the By Laws Revision 
Committee. Are we a society of clinical social workers in 
private practice, or are we a Society of clinical social workers 
in all professional settings? Having accomplished independent 
licensure and practice, how do we as a Society move into the 
future in the absence of a major unifying focus? Are the Society 
purposes stated in our by laws sufficient to sustain ongoing 
and future membership — maintaining standards of practice, 
promoting education and training, interorganizational collabo­
ration, and support to members in their practice?
The answer, of course, is a resounding “of course.” The 
purposes of the Society remain viable and provide direction 
for its work in both present and future. With that we must 
also recognize the impact of changes to our field and make 
some adjustments so that we remain welcoming to new mem­
bership and new leadership.
Leadership is entrusted with looking ahead and consider­
ing issues of past, present and future. How do we remain 
loyal to our foundation while charting a course into the 
future? How do we remain relevant and necessary?
It behooves us to prepare the way for our successors. 
Recent elections to State Board positions and state commit­
tees included a growing number of candidates for leadership 
positions — the help and support of our membership is 
essential to moving us into our future.
We welcome Marsha Wineburgh as President Elect, Robert 
Berger as First Vice President, Dore Sheppard as Second 
Vice President, Monica Olivier and Linda Wright as Members-
at-Large, and David Phillips as Chair of the State Ethics and 
Professional Standards Committee. We acknowledge the 
contributions of Shannon Boyle, immediate past Second Vice 
President, of Fred Mazor, immediate past Member-at-Large, 
and prepare to bid farewell to Judy Crosley, Chair of the State 
Strategic Planning Committee, whose list of contributions 
to the Society took up a considerable amount of time at our 
recent Annual Membership Meeting.
The process of strategic planning and change is challeng­
ing but ultimately necessary and rewarding. The leadership 
appreciates the support of the membership in its work.  
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State Board Members 2011 
STATE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
President	
Jonathan Morgenstern, MSW, MED, MA, LCSW  MjonathanM@aol.com
President Elect 	
Marsha Wineburgh, MSW, DSW, LCSW, BCD  mwineburgh@aol.com
First Vice President 	
Robert S. Berger, Ph.D., MSW, LCSW  rsb111@columbia.edu
Second Vice President 	
Dore Sheppard, Ph.D., MSW, LCSW  doreshep@yahoo.com
Treasurer 	
Helen Hinckley Krackow, MSW, LCSW, BCD  hhkrackow@aol.com
Board Secretary 	
Elizabeth Ojakian, MSW, LCSW  e08@nyu.edu
CHAPTER PRESIDENTS
Brooklyn 	
Carol Kamine-Brown, MSW, LCSW  c.kbrown@cohme.org
Manhattan (Met) 	
Ariane Sylva MSW, Ph.D., LCSW  drsylva@drsylva.com
Mid-Hudson 	
Rosemary Cohen MSW, LCSW  rosemarycohen@gmail.com
Nassau 	
Lorraine M. Fitzgerald MSW, LCSW  lorraine@grieflistener.com 
Queens 	
Fred Sacklow, MSW, LCSW  freds99@aol.com
Rockland 	
Beverly Goff MSW, LCSW  bevgoff@optonline.net
Staten Island 	
Mary FitzPatrick, MSW, LCSW  fitzrodal@aol.com
Suffolk 	
Sandra Jo Lane MSW, LCSW  sjlsunshine@aol.com
Westchester 	
Martin J. Lowery, MSW, LCSW  mlowery@maryknoll.org
MEMBERS-AT-LARGE
Metropolitan	
Chris Farhood, LCSW  chrisfarhood@yahoo.com 
Mid-Hudson 	
Roberta L. Faulk, MSW, LCSW  srfaulke@juno.com
Nassau	
Linda Wright, MSW, LCSW  lwrightlcsw@aol.com
Rockland 	
Monica Olivier, MSW, LMSW  Mo444@nyu.edu
Westchester 	
Sheldon Blitstein, MSW, LCSW  sabhidhammab@optonline.net
COMMITTEE CHAIRS
Annual Education Conference 	 Susan A. Klett, LCSW-R, BCD  suzannneklett@aol.com
Creativity & Transformation 	
Sandra Indig, LCSW, ATR-BC  psych4art@hotmail.com
By-Laws 	
Beth Pagano, MSW, LCSW  bethpagano678@msn.com
Chapter Development 	
Helen Hinckley Krackow, MSW, LCSW, BCD  hhkrackow@aol.com
Disaster Preparedness 	
Fred Mazor, DSW, MSW, LCSW, BCD  fredm25@aol.com
Ethics & Professional 
	
Standards	
David Phillips, DSW, LCSW  dgphillips@nyc.rr.com
Independent Practice 	
Sheila Peck, MSW, LCSW  sheila2688@aol.com
Leadership 	
Beth Pagano, MSW, LCSW  bethpagano678@msn.com
Legislative 	
Marsha Wineburgh, DSW, LCSW  mwineburgh@aol.com
Listserv Committee 	
Robert S. Berger, PhD, MSSW, LCSW  rsb111@columbia.edu
Mentorship & Peer 
	
Consultation 	
Helen Hinckley Krackow, MSW, LCSW, BCD  hhkrackow@aol.com
Newsletter 	
Helen Hinckley Krackow, MSW, LCSW, BCD  hhkrackow@aol.com
Nominations & Elections 	
Beth Pagano, MSW, LCSW  bethpagano678@msn.com
State Membership 	
Shannon Boyle, MSW, LMSW  shannonboyle@hotmail.com
Strategic Planning 	
Judy Crosley, MSW, LCSW  crosleyj@yahoo.com
Vendorship & Managed Care 	 Helen T. Hoffman, LCSW  helenhoffman@verizon.net
CORRECTION
Barbara Tholfsen, LCSW, was omitted from the list in our last issue 
of workshop presenters at the 41st Annual Conference.
We regret the error.
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1. “Narcissism and the Sibling Relationship”
Joyce Edward, LCSW, BCD, Distinguished Practitioner, 
National Academies of Practice
2. “My Patient, My Stalker: 
Occupational Hazard and Cautionary Tale”
Sharon K. Farber, Ph.D., LCSW, BCD, 
Adjunct Faculty, NYU School of Social Work
3. “Learning to Love in an Intimate Attachment: 
Addressing Avoidant Attachment Dynamics 
in a Narcissistically Self-Preoccupied Man” 
Marc Wayne, LCSW, BCD, Senior Supervisor, Training Analyst 
and Faculty, Training Institute for Mental Health
4. “Uncovering the Lost Self: 
Expanding Positive Narcissism in a Neurotic Patient” 
Roberta Ann Shechter, DSW, Faculty, Supervisor and 
Training Analyst, Washington Square Institute 
5. “Narcissism as a Defense” 
Leah Pittell Jacobs, LCSW, LP, NCPsyA, Faculty and Senior Mem­
ber of The National Psychological Association for Psychoanalysis
6. “Reconsidering An Elusive Concept: 
Narcissism As Superegotistical Attack” 
Barbara Tholfsen, LCSW, Founder of the online-resource group 
Lacanian Foothold
7. “Narcissistic Injury in a Marriage Stung by an Affair: 
An Integrative Approach for the Clinical Situation”
Gildo M. Consolini, Ph.D., LCSW, Director of Behavioral Health 
and Social Services at Personal Touch Home Health Care; 
Tripp Evans, Ph.D., LCSW-R, Faculty/Supervisor, 2-Year Couple 
Program, Training Institute for Mental Health 
8. “Shattering the Mirror of Narcissism: 
Treatment of an Adolescent Male”
Janice Michaelson, LCSW, Founder and First President, 
New Jersey Society for Clinical Social Work 
The 42nd Annual Conference of the New York State Society for Clinical Social Work
The Multiple Dimensions of 
Narcissism and How to Survive them
Saturday, May 7, 2011, 8:00am – 4:00pm
The Nightingale-Bamford School
20 East 92nd Street, New York, NY
Judith Siegel
“Breaking Through: Helping the Narcissistically 
Vulnerable Couple Engage” 
Dr. Judith Siegel is an associate professor at the NYU Silver School 
of Social Work and the author of over 20 works on marriage 
and relationships, including four books: Repairing Intimacy, 
Countertransference in Couples Therapy, What Children Learn from 
their Parents Marriage and Stop Overreacting. Her work integrates 
object relations and systems theories with emotional regulation. 
She has presented at conferences throughout the U.S. and Canada 
and is in private practice in Mamaroneck.
Jane S. Hall
“The Hidden Pain in Narcissism” 
Jane S. Hall, LCSW, FIPA, is past president of the New York Freudian 
Society, a member of the IPA, ApsaA, AAPCSW, Div. 39. A training 
and supervising analyst, she has taught, lectured, and consulted 
for over 25 years on how to deepen psychoanalytic work. Hall is 
the author of Roadblocks on the Journey of Psychotherapy and 
Deepening the Treatment. A founder of the New York School for 
Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis, she is on the 
faculties of three New York institutes, and in private practice in 
New York City.
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Education Committee, NYSSCSW
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We congratulate our newly elected officers and applaud all the candidates who ran in 
this year’s election. Your dedication and contributions to our Society and to the field of 
clinical social work are very much appreciated.
President-Elect Marsha Wineburgh, MSW, DSW, LCSW, BCD
President-Elect Wineburgh wrote: “In retrospect, it seems I was destined to participate 
in the professionalization of clinical social work. It was certainly nothing I sought to do; 
it was only accidental that I applied to social work graduate school. Awareness of the 
NYSSCSW began in the early 70s, when Helen Goldberg, an esteemed member even then, 
cajoled me into attending a meeting of the organization, then known then as the NYS 
Society for Clinical Social Work Psychotherapists. This was six or seven years after the 
Society was founded, way before the establishment of chapters. 
As a founding member of the National Federation of Societies for Clinical Social Work, 
our Society actively participated in initiating efforts to pass legislation for insurance 
reimbursement and licensing for qualified social workers on the federal and state levels. 
Exciting times! Our meetings were intense, chaotic, very lively — and I was hooked. 
First, I worked on the newsletter, then served on the Board in various positions, becom­
ing president in 1980–81. As president, I was honored to testify at federal hearings for 
clinical social work Medicare privileges, and helped develop the strategy for social work 
inclusion in FEBHA and CHAMPUS health care programs. 
Interested in legislative work, I became the State legislative chair in 1981, and with my 
most effective committee and the brilliant Hillel Bodek, LCSW, launched the legislation 
for mandated insurance reimbursement for social work mental health services — the 
“R.” When New York State finally opened the door to licensing, we developed and intro­
duced a series of bills to license clinical social workers. We have spent three decades 
pressing for state legislation to recognize clinical social workers and we have succeeded.
Over time, I rotated through many different elected positions on the State Board and 
the Executive Committee, actually serving as all but treasurer… a very big job. And now, 
I am honored to have been elected president once again. We are an important voice in 
the social work community calling for meaningful standards for clinical education and 
experience, often alone. Note the recent NASW articles on pursuing students in two year 
AA programs who are interested in social work (NASWNews, Vol. 56, #2, February 2011)! 
I welcome your input: ideas, participation in programs, or planning programs. I can be 
reached at mwineburgh@aol.com.”
First Vice President Robert S. Berger, Ph.D., MS, LCSW
Robert S. Berger holds an MS in Social Work from Columbia University School of 
Social Work; Ph.D. in Clinical Social Work from the New York University Silver School 
of Social Work (Dissertation: “A Study of the Self-Perceptions of Children with 
Familial Dysautonomia, the Severity of Their Disorder, and the Childrearing Attitudes 
of Their Parents”); and a Certificate in Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy from the NYU 
Psychoanalytic Institute. He is an Adjunct Assistant Professor at NYU Silver School of 
Social Work (1986–present); and formerly was an Adjunct Lecturer at Hunter College 
School of Social Work (1986–1996) and Caseworker & Casework Supervisor at JBFCS 
(1979–1988). He also is in private practice.
He is the current State & Met Chapter Listserv Committee chair and the former State 
& Met Chapter Website Committee chair (2007–2010). 
He wrote: “NYSSCSW has worked long and hard to carve out, protect and promote 
professional social work licensure in New York State, as well as advocate for a high 
Welcome to the 
Newly Elected Officers 
I 
am writing this after the fourth snow 
storm in eight days. I know that each of 
you is probably as sick of snow as I am 
(except for the skiers among us). Perhaps 
by the time you receive this, spring will be 
just around the corner.
We have had a very exciting few months. 
The Society’s new website was launched on 
December 6. If you have not already done 
so, I hope you will visit the site: 
www.clinicalsw.org. There is a page for 
each chapter announcing meetings and 
events, a searchable directory to find an 
LCSW, and a full membership directory in 
the Members Only section which allows 
members to sign in and edit their profiles 
easily. There also is a history of the Society 
and other interesting and in-depth informa­
tion. In the future, we will archive past 
issues of The Clinician in the Members 
Only section as well.
Possibly the best part of the website is 
the fact members have the ability to pay 
their dues on- line. Since the dues bills 
were sent out in December, we have had 
almost 200 members take advantage of this 
service — saving them time and postage. 
If you have not yet paid your dues, please 
try this method. If you have forgotten your 
password, please call the office and Robin 
will be happy to assist you.
Speaking of dues, we hope all members 
have renewed by now. 
As the new Board of Directors begins 
its work, many exciting programs are being 
planned both on the chapter and state 
level. We hope that you will take advantage 
of everything that your Society has to offer 
and invite colleagues who are not members 
to join.
If there is anything that we can do for 
you, please feel free to call the office, 
1-800-288-4CSW.
Cordially,
Sheila Guston, CAE
Administrator
The New York State Society for Clinical Social 
Work is managed by Total Management Solutions, 
Inc. Sheila Guston is the president of TMS.
Headquarters Update 
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Vendorship and Managed Care Committee 
By Helen T. Hoffman, LCSW, Chair
CHAPTER/NAME	
E-MAIL	
OFFICE PHONE
metropolitan
Helen Hoffman	
helenhoffman@verizon.net 	
212-873-3052 
Ruth Washton	
rwashton@verizon.net	
917-584-7783 
Virginia Lehman*	
LehmanV117@aol.com	
212-674-2984
Mary Freeman**	
bullpen@mindspring.com	
212-348-0004
Judy Adelson	
judyadelson@rcn.com	
212-222-4486
Henni Fisher	
info@hennifisher.com	
718-646-7001
queens
Shirley Sillekens	
ssillekens@aol.om	
718-527-7742
northeast
Doris Tomer	
tomerd@juno.com 	
518-271-1862
westchester 
Linda Plastrik	
LPtunedin@aol.com 	
914-631-6342
rockland 
Lorraine Schorr	
lorrainesara@aol.com	
845-354-5040
nassau
Susan Kahn	
shkahn@verizon.net 	
516-482-1269
staten island
Colleen Downes 	
eve114@aol.com 	
718-816-0712
*Medicare Liason; ** National Health Insurance Observer
T
he Vendorship and Managed Care Committee contin­
ues to meet by teleconference and communicates by 
e-mail, gathering and sharing information through the 
listservs. The committee consists of representatives from 
the various chapters. Some issues addressed are:
Medicare Webinar 
A seminar on Medicare with teleconference, Power Point 
presentation and question and answer session took place 
February 28 at One Liberty Plaza in Manhattan. National 
Government Services presented an overview of provider 
enrollment and provider responsibilities and discussed the 
future direction of Medicare, including the issue of elec­
tronic billing. This seminar was tailored for members of the 
Society.
Parity Issues 
Many clients became subject to the Federal Parity Bill for 
the first time in January 2011. Since most policies renew in 
January, this is when changes took effect. Congress has not 
decided whether all diagnoses will be covered by federal 
parity. At the moment, we expect that only the biologically 
based diagnoses will be covered under parity by most insur­
ance companies, unless an employer decides to be more 
generous. We advise providers with a new patient to call the 
insurance company and determine whether the patient’s plan 
falls under parity. 
Although under parity laws patients may be told they have 
“unlimited benefits,” providers will still have to show medical 
necessity for the patient to access these benefits. Providers 
are advised to familiarize themselves with criteria for showing 
medical necessity, which are usually posted on the website 
of the insurer. Often obtaining authorization comes down to 
demonstrating two points: symptoms and impaired function­
ing. Plans often distinguish between acute care and mainte­
nance, with less frequent sessions authorized for the latter.
Some MCOs No Longer Require OTRs
The good news is that more and more plans have discontin­
ued the use of Outpatient Treatment Reports, for example, 
MHN, some GHI plans and some Value Options plans. 
However, plans may fall back on telephone reviews to manage 
the benefit more closely. The Committee has been discussing 
appropriate responses to requests for in-depth medical in­
formation by telephone. Patients and the public are unaware 
that their personal information can be used in this way and 
need to be educated by therapists. 
New Vendorship and Managed Care Webpage
With the installation of a new Society website, the Vendorship 
and Managed Care Committee has been able to mount an 
improved webpage. For recent informational bulletins, 
announcements, articles, lists, and alerts go to clinicalsw.org 
>About Clinical Social Work>Vendorship and Managed 
Care Committee.
If you have questions or need information about an insurance 
issue please contact one of the members of the committee 
listed here and on our website.  
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Chapter Reports
WESTCHESTER • SUFFOLK • STATEN ISLAND • QUEENS • MID-HUDSON • METROPOLITAN
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Westchester Chapter 
Martin J. Lowery, President
We began the first General Membership 
Meeting of 2011 by announcing a “Year of 
Transition,” in which we will have the pleasure 
of welcoming a new president and vice 
president. As a first step, a call was made 
for volunteers to take on some of the non-
presidential tasks the president had assumed. 
The response was encouraging. With more 
and newer people involved, we hope to see 
continued chapter vitality.
In response to the Westchester County 
Executive’s proposed closing of five 
Community Service Centers under the 
Department of Mental Health as part of the 
2011 county budget, members of the chapter 
shared their opposition, which resulted in a 
letter to the county executive signed by both 
the chapter president and the State president.
The chapter meets on the first Saturday 
of each month from September to June. 
The monthly General Membership Meeting 
consists of a business meeting followed by 
an invited speaker, who addresses topics 
of interest to members. Prior to the meet­
ing, the following interest groups gather 
and share: Group Therapy Practice, Career/
Private Practice Building Mentorship, Child 
and Adolescent Peer Consultation, Peer 
Consultation, Spirituality and Therapy. In 
addition, the following committees serve the 
needs of the chapter: Education, Legislation, 
Membership, Disaster Preparedness and 
Vendorship / Managed Care. We keep connect­
ed by a well-edited newsletter and listserv. 
Martin J. Lowery, mlowery@maryknoll.org
Suffolk Chapter
Sandra Jo Lane, President
Reports of “Demise” Decidedly 
Premature! 
The dissemination of the totally inaccurate 
news that the Suffolk County Chapter was no 
longer going to be in existence contributed to 
our determination that the chapter would, in 
fact, thrive! The Three Village Inn was the ven­
ue chosen for the First Annual Suffolk County 
Chapter Brunch. Society members (and a few 
non-members and yet-to-become members) 
gathered on the beautifully sunny, but cold, 
morning of January 16th to share in a delightful 
and delicious repast. A significant amount of 
chapter business was undertaken. The chapter 
now has a membership chair, Sharon Greaney-
Watt, a mentorship chair, Charles Greco, a vice 
president, Diane Freedman, a treasurer, 
Kathy LaFemina, and we are in the process 
of filling the positions of secretary and 
newsletter editor.
We are committed to having fun and 
learning and have already determined that one 
of our priorities is including students from 
Suffolk County’s SUNY at Stony Brook, and 
welcoming new professionals and prospective 
members.
We’ve lots of options for meetings, and our 
group will be delighting in a repeat, but better 
(!) Three Village Inn gathering. on March 27. 
The real treat of the day will be our own Sheila 
Felberbaum making a presentation on “life and 
connection, separation and death, and all that 
is between.” In addition to her career in social 
work, Sheila has experienced life as an R.N. 
The presentation promises to be educational, 
informative, and moving. 
There will be postings on the Nassau-
Suffolk listserv providing additional informa­
tion about registering. Please look at what you 
need to do if you have an interest in joining 
us! Keep your eyes open for other exciting and 
valuable opportunities you may have through 
the Suffolk Chapter.
Wishing all warm regards as we slog 
through the balance of winter and anticipate 
with pleasure the imminent arrival of a beauti­
ful and productive spring!  
Sandra Jo Lane, 631-586-7429
 
Staten Island Chapter
Mary FitzPatrick, President
Our small bur dedicated chapter has 
had a very interesting and successful year. 
We continue to strive to keep our chapter thriv­
ing, open and relevant to old and new members.
Since fall 2010, we have had several inter­
esting and informative presentations, “Internal 
Family Systems Theory and Techniques,” 
Jaime Wasserman, LCSW, “Psychotropic 
and Clinical Treatment of Attention Deficit 
Hyperactivity Disorder,” Michael Zampella, 
LCSW and Christina Vaglica, MD, and “Stroke 
and Epilepsy: Psychiatric Manifestations and 
Co-Morbidities,” Aaran Tansy MD.
The ADHD seminar introduced Dr. Vaglia 
to our community. She is knowledgeable about 
a problem we all come across, no matter what 
our practice is, and promises to be a good 
resource. Dr. Tansy was also very informative 
about strokes and epilepsy, and made it clear 
that we can work hand-in-hand. Most stroke 
patients and patients with epilepsy suffer from 
depression and need therapy. 
We have several interesting presenta­
tions to come, including one by Hillel Bodek, 
LCSW, who will speak on “Ethics and Legal 
Considerations in Psychotherapy.” 
In March we will again host Jaime 
Wasserman, LCSW, for a half-day confer­
ence. She will present “Using Internal Family 
Systems To Heal the Dissociated States 
Caused by Trauma.” As we learned in the fall, 
she is an excellent presenter as well as a 
gifted therapist.
Other presentations will be: 
“Understanding Clients and Families of 
Domestic Violence,” “New York State 
Evidence-Based Prosecution, “ and last but 
not least, Cristina Casanova, LCSW, will pres­
ent “Utilizing Somatic Experience Techniques 
within the Therapeutic Setting.”
All of our members contribute a great 
deal of time and energy to our chapter. Janice 
Gross, LCSW, deserves special mention. She 
is a long-time member who is not only our 
treasurer, but the voting delegate to the Board. 
After her weekend trips to Manhattan, she 
carefully and diligently shares important infor­
mation with the Executive Committee and the 
group as a whole. Her dedication is absolute.
Mary Fitzpatrick, fitzrodal@aol.com
8   The Clinician
T
he State Membership Committee is comprised of mem­
bership chairs representing the various chapters of the 
NYSSCSW. We hold regular meetings via conference calls 
to coordinate our efforts across the state. Our focus has been 
twofold: to increase our overall membership, while continuing 
to ensure that the needs of our current members are met. Over 
the past few years, our membership numbers have been decreas­
ing for many reasons, including retirement and relocation. The 
Membership Committee is working to reverse this trend, one that 
is being experienced by most professional associations.
In November 2010, the Membership Committee put a proposal 
before the State Board to lower the cost of membership dues 
for student members. The proposal was approved, and effective 
December 2010, the new cost for students in an MSW or DSW 
program is $48 a year (more specific details are available on the 
Society website). We know that many social work students would 
welcome the opportunity to belong to this organization, but the 
previous fees may have been too prohibitive. 
Numerous Society members have connections with students 
through direct teaching, on-site internship supervision, or other 
such settings. We hope that you will take the opportunity to 
spread the word about the Society and all the benefits social 
workers have from membership. It is now easier than ever to be­
come a member — applications and payments can be submitted 
directly through our new Society website at www.clinicalsw.org. 
Social workers have always been agents of change. The Society 
is also an agent of change, helping to strengthen clinical social 
work practice in the state. Strong membership is necessary for us 
to continue to advocate effectively for clinical social work. 
The Membership Committee will hold an in-person workshop 
to bring together members of our committee along with other 
representatives of our chapters to coordinate efforts for the 
continued growth of the Society. We will share the outcome 
with all members. Please contact your chapter president or 
membership chair if getting more involved in the work of the 
Membership Committee interests you. We can certainly use the 
help and welcome more members to be actively involved in this 
important work.  
Membership Committee
By Shannon Boyle, LMSW, Chair
However in 2002 a quiet revolution occurred. For the first time, 
individual social work professionals were licensed by New York 
State as autonomous professionals, increasing consumer protec­
tion and furthering our professional identity, public recognition 
and social prestige by limiting practice to those who could estab­
lish their qualifications by education, experience, and examina­
tion. Scopes of practice for LMSWs and LCSWs now define our 
functions, establish our authority over our own work and require 
each licensed social worker to be responsible for acquiring the 
knowledge necessary to provide services to the public. 
Although the workplace (setting) continues to have adminis­
trative authority over social work employees by virtue of em­
ployment contracts, LMSWs and LCSWs are now legally granted 
autonomy by the state. Prior to licensing, the authority to practice 
was granted to the social worker by a social agency (setting); 
the final authority rested with the agency. Licensing empowers 
individual professionals, so that the final authority and responsi­
bility rests with the licensed practitioner who is legally account­
able to the State. This is not to diminish the value of consultation, 
administrative supervision, advanced training, and/or continuing 
education, but accountability for practice decisions squarely rests 
with the individual licensed professional.
Recently, in the January/February 2011 issue of Currents, the 
New York City Chapter of NASW raised the question, “What is 
clinical practice?” It offered articles reflecting several different 
settings where clinical social work knowledge is essential for 
effective interventions. Who would disagree with the premise that 
the broader one’s professional knowledge base, the less likely it is 
that one will oversimplify the complex situations facing clients? 
The intent of this Currents issue is to question again why 
supervised clinical experience in assessment, diagnosis and 
treatment is required for the LCSW, the only social work license 
granting the right to offer psychotherapy services. If one under­
stands the gift of autonomy granted to a social worker licensed 
to offer these specialized services (LCSW), it is obvious that 
supervised clinical experience in psychotherapy is an essential in­
gredient in building necessary clinical expertise. Who would hire 
a brain surgeon who did not have special training and experience 
in brain surgery in addition to a medical degree?
Isn’t it time to conclude these discussions about licensing 
clinical social workers and focus our collaborative efforts on edu­
cating licensed social work professionals to be better informed 
about the advancements in the clinical social work fields where 
they have chosen to work? 
We would welcome ideas for joint educational programming 
from all parts of our professional community: the institutes, 
professional associations, social agencies and the unions. Please 
contact me at mwineburgh@aol.com or call 212-595-6518.  
Licensing Clinical Social Workers	
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Spring 2011    9
In 1986 a psychoanalyst, David Krueger, edited a 
collection of articles, The Last Taboo: Money 
as Symbol and Reality in Psychotherapy and 
Psychoanalysis. As the first part of its title 
implied, he considered money a taboo subject 
which was not being adequately dealt with in our 
clinical work. He contended that, because of this 
taboo, patients and therapists were colluding to 
avoid discussion of money in treatment. 
After reading Krueger’s book, I became interested the idea 
of the money taboo and I started paying attention to money 
as an issue in my work with clients. In fall 1999, in Clinical 
Social Work Journal, I published an article called “The 
Money Taboo: Its effects in everyday life and in the practice 
of psychotherapy,” in which I claimed that: A cultural taboo 
regarding discussion of money affects psychotherapists as 
well as the lay public. As a result, the psychological literature 
regarding money is sparse while issues relating to money are 
seldom addressed in our training, our self-analyses or the 
treatment of our patients.
When we do talk or write about money, we focus primarily 
on the fee we charge for our services and tend to ignore the 
psychological importance of money in shaping our clients 
intrapsychic and interpersonal lives. In response to this 
trend, in 2008 I wrote an article, “Beyond the Fee: Addressing 
Non-Fee, Money-Related Issues.” 
A most recent example of avoidance of talking about 
non-fee based problems occurred during the discussion 
period after the presentation upon which this paper is based. 
Although the presentation did not focus on the fee, every 
question or comment offered by an audience of 26 therapists 
focused only on issues such as how to set the fee, why so 
many of us find it difficult to ask for payment, what to do if 
a client does not pay, or how to raise the fee or respond to 
requests to lower the fee. 
This continued even when I pointed out what was happen­
ing. No doubt our ability to earn a good living is of significant 
importance. But, to focus only on money issues that affect 
us and not those that affect our clients, represents one type 
of money based countertransference, characterized by an 
avoidance which diminishes our ability to truly understand 
our clients. Other money based countertransferences are 
BEYOND THE LAST TABOO: 
          Talking About Money In Psychotherapy	
CONTINUED ON PAGE 18
Richard Trachtman, Ph.D., LCSW, has been 
a psychotherapist and social worker, both in 
private practice and for mental health clinics and 
social work agencies, since 1964. In addition, he 
has been an administrator and has supervised 
and taught social workers, psychologists 
and students in a variety of schools, training 
institutes and clinics. This article is based in 
part on a presentation made to the Metropolitan 
Branch of the New York State Society of Clinical 
Social Workers on February 6, 2011.
For more information: richardtrachtman@aol.com 
or www.moneyworkandlove.com 
described in my book, Money and Psychotherapy: A Guide for 
Mental Health Professionals (NASW Press, forthcoming). 
After completing this article, the reader is asked to take 
this challenge: think of your own clients and try to identify 
the role money has played in their identity and character 
formations, their intrapsychic and interpersonal problems 
and their adaptations. 
My Work
A large part of my clinical work, as well as the workshops I 
have run and what I have been writing about, has been aimed 
at getting us beyond the last taboo, and talking and thinking 
more freely about money. By “us,” I mean us as a profes­
sion and us as the whole society. I created MORE Services 
for MOney and RElationships (www.monwyworkandlove.
com), which offers clinical services and provides educational 
and clinical resources including copies of the two articles 
mentioned above, two bibliographies and a sample of a book 
published last year, Money and the Pursuit of Happiness in 
Good Times and Bad (which I refer to as a psychologically 
sophisticated self help book). 
 
How To Think About Money
 Money can be thought of as a blank screen onto which we 
project our wishes and fears. If we think money is security, 
we are really hoping it will allow us to provide for ourselves 
or our families at some time in the future. If we think of 
money as power, we believe it will allow us to buy favor or to 
influence events in the future. 
But the idea of money is so powerful and pervasive in our 
culture that we tend to forget that it is only a stand-in for 
 By Richard Trachtman, Ph.D., LCSW
10   The Clinician
This January, I was invited to return as Chair 
of the Society’s Committee on Ethics and 
Professional Standards, a position I had previ­
ously held during the decade of the 1980s, when 
we wrote the Society’s original Code of Ethics. 
My return to the Ethics Committee has led me 
to think of developments that have taken place 
over the three decades during which I have been 
studying, teaching, and writing on legal and 
ethical issues in professional practice.
When health care professionals are surveyed, they 
will usually say that the responsibility to maintain 
confidentiality over information received in a professional 
context is the most important ethical obligation that they 
owe to their patients. In recent decades, however, the 
requirement to maintain confidentiality has been subject 
to intense debate in a variety of situations in which the 
welfare of the individual patient was weighed against the 
needs of the wider society. The general trend has been to 
limit confidentiality more and more, with the one major 
exception being the Jaffe vs. Redmond case decided by 
the United States Supreme Court in the 1990’s. This case 
affirmed the importance of confidentiality in developing 
the relationship of trust that was basic to effective 
psychotherapy and favored the recognition of a federal 
psychotherapist-patient privilege.
This column will serve as an introduction to the topic 
of growing limitations on confidentiality, and in future 
columns I will review in more detail the changes that have 
taken place in this key area of professional responsibility. 
The first known official statement on confidentiality was in 
the original Code of Ethics of NASW, written in 1960. It stat­
ed, in total: “I respect the privacy of the people I serve.” The 
dual implication of this precept was both that confidentiality 
was an absolute right of the client, and that the responsibility 
to maintain confidentiality arose in the service relationship 
between the social worker and the client.  
Committee on Ethics and Professional Standards
By David G. Phillips, DSW, LCSW, Chair
When we review current codes of ethics, however, we 
find that the statements on confidentiality are filled with 
the many ways in which patient confidentiality might be lim­
ited and the conditions under which confidential informa­
tion might be revealed. These columns will review how we 
got from there to here, how an absolute right of patients in 
psychotherapy became a highly limited one.
We will begin by discussing the child abuse reporting 
laws, which began to be passed by various states in the 
1950s, and which now are in effect in all 50 states. This was 
the first situation in which the rights of individual clients to 
absolute confidentiality in a psychotherapy relationship was 
limited because of the concern for the welfare of others. 
We will then move on to the well known Tarasoff 
case from California, which was decided in the 1970s 
and extended the concept that psychotherapists seeing 
patients in confidential relationships might have a more 
powerful responsibility to protect a third party, even 
though that third party might have nothing to do with the 
psychotherapy. 
We will also discuss the controversy over revealing HIV 
status that erupted when AIDS became a national crisis in 
the 1980s. This development raised the question of whether 
professionals had an obligation to reveal HIV status to pos­
sibly endangered third parties, an intense debate in New 
York, which is one of the national centers of that disease.  
We will continue by discussing the impact on patient 
confidentiality that took place when clinical social workers 
in New York State first became reimbursable providers for 
private insurance plans with the passage of the “P” law in 
1978 and the “R” law in 1984.
We will finish by talking about the development of 
modern technology for transmitting and storing data, 
and the current popularity of social media sites such as 
Facebook and Twitter. 
These latter developments might prove to be the biggest 
threats to confidentiality of all and perhaps, by the time 
we’re finished, you’ll understand why I’m only half jok­
ing when I tell my students that, “I’ll be glad to teach you 
something about confidentiality, but it’ll have to be from a 
historical perspective, because in the modern world there 
is no such thing.”  
Spring 2011    11
	
By Richard B. Joelson, DSW
I
n the course of my years as a teacher, consultant, and supervi­
sor to clinical social workers and other mental health profes­
sionals in various stages of their independent practices, I have 
taught these clinicians everything I know about how to develop and 
maintain a successful private practice. I have also learned a great 
deal about why so many of them struggle in their efforts to launch a 
practice and to succeed. 
All of us who see clients privately are likely to hear stories about 
why some left treatment and came to us, or, why they did not return 
to the former psychotherapist. We also learn why we were chosen 
to be their therapist as opposed to others with whom they had 
consulted. 
I believe that there are many ways in which clinicians, unknow­
ingly, self-defeat in the course of their efforts to build and suc­
cessfully maintain a private practice. Two major areas with which 
many of us have difficulty were identified and described in the first 
two articles for this column in The Clinician: problems concerning 
money and fees (Spring, 2010) and marketing issues (Fall, 2010). 
There are many other attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors that serve 
to undermine clinicians who practice independently of an agency or 
clinic setting. This article will address self-defeating issues having 
to do with telephone behavior. In Part 2 (Fall 2011) I will discuss 
ways to avoid self-defeat in relation to your office (clean that bath­
room!), communicating with referral sources (do so!), marketing 
your practice (do so!), and handling termination (with a more flex­
ible approach to the process, if necessary).
Telephone Behavior 
New clients who were given several names of therapists have re­
ported that one of the reasons they came to see me was that I was 
the only one who returned their phone calls, or that I returned their 
calls on the same day rather than two, three, or more days later. I 
am astonished every time I hear this.
Another set of comments concerns the phone manner of the 
therapist who does return the call: Unfriendly; Cold, Abrupt; I felt 
like I was bothering him; S/he didn’t really seem to want to answer 
my questions; S/he sounded to me like I must sound to the sales­
person who calls me at dinnertime; and more. It seems that some 
therapists are not any more comfortable talking with strangers than 
they are talking with us. 
Prospective clients who have been referred by a known source 
may simply be calling to make an appointment. For many prospective 
clients, however, it is a fragile moment when they finally make that 
often-long-delayed call to begin the process of entering therapy. 
This is the first opportunity to engage the client and establish an 
initial connection to him or her. Many prospective clients who feel 
uncomfortable or even put off during the first call will never make it 
to the first visit with that clinician.
Some potential clients call to arrange an appointment and save 
their many questions for the first visit. Most of us, undoubtedly, 
hope for and prefer this caller. However, many prospective clients, 
especially those who are ambivalent, fearful or seeking help under 
duress, will require answers to their questions on the phone before 
ever coming in for a session. How this conversation is handled by 
the therapist might well make the difference between a new client 
and a non-client. 
If a therapist is uncomfortable or unhappy with a prospective 
client needing a lot of information during the first phone contact, it 
is likely to be evident and affect the quality of the encounter. Some 
callers ask difficult questions that must be handled sensitively, e.g., 
What is your fee?; What is your orientation?; How long will it take?; 
Should I bring my spouse?, Now that I’ve told you a little about 
my problem, do you think you can help me? Many therapists find 
handling questions about the fee to be quite a dilemma, for there is 
probably no really safe or “good’ answer,” at least on the phone. 
Some therapists dodge the question by saying they do not dis­
cuss fees on the phone and attempt to postpone the fee discussion 
until the client agrees to come in. The caller may find this answer 
evasive and permanently end the encounter. With a direct answer, 
arguably a superior response, the therapist also runs the risk of an 
abrupt end to the encounter. The prospective client may be com­
parison-shopping and the stated fee may eliminate a therapist right 
away, or the client may make an appointment, then not show up.
It is important to remember and utilize well the social work 
“rules of engagement” we learned those many years ago. The first 
phone contact is, possibly, the beginning of treatment. Be attentive, 
receptive, steady, ready to be of service, and generous, so that the 
person who seeks you out feels recognized and accepted sympa­
thetically as a person in trouble. One approach includes responding 
directly to the question of fee and also inviting the client to come in 
to discuss the various parameters of treatment including time and 
frequency, as well as fee. This conveys an interest in developing a 
working alliance and a flexible approach which might include a fee 
reduction, if necessary.  
Private Practice Matters
The Self-Defeating Private Practitioner
 Part 1: Telephone Behavior
12   The Clinician
On the 9th day of the first month of the New 
Year, 17 of us attended a lively and highly infor­
mative presentation, “The Artful Brain: Survival 
through Creativity,” by George Hagman, LCSW. 
To quote from our committee’s Internet posting, 
“We will explore enhancement of brain function­
ing and the psychological nature of art, as well 
as subjective states, including survival through 
creativity. Art developed to compensate for the 
limitations of the brain’s capacity for conscious 
thought, permitting a focused, sustained means 
to elaborate subjectivity. Through art people 
represent, elaborate, and perfect subjectiv­
ity. This view of art has implications for a new 
understanding of art and creativity.” 
This most memorable presentation was everything you 
wanted to know about what it means to recognize and de­
velop an artful brain. All appeared to be mesmerized by hear­
ing secrets only known to active artists and neuroscientists. 
Layer by layer the “veils” fell away as each section of George 
Hagman’s workshop progressed through a mixture of reading 
and interactive discussion.
George Hagman (after referred to as GH) proposes a new 
definition of art. Art is generally seen as a product of certain 
activities, or a type of discipline or skill. GH argues that the 
defining feature in art is the psychological processes involved 
in art creation and appreciation. He doesn’t minimize the art 
object but regards the defining element as the psychological 
work that the artist engages in as he creates the artwork. 
Whenever this particular psychological process occurs, 
there is art.
The creation of art and the valuing of art is a fundamental 
human need. This need is supported by recent scholarship in 
evolutionary theory, neurobiology, and cultural studies. Art’s 
early adaptive function is linked to basic elements in attach­
ment and self-experience (Dissanayake, 2009, p. 153 – 154). 
Presentation by George Hagman, LCSW / Review by Sandra Indig, LCSW-R, LP, ATR-BC, Committee Chair
The Artful Brain: Survival through Creativity
Art helped communities be more cohesive and therefore 
more viable. Individuals developed an instinct for art because 
the function of art in human life increased the probability 
of survival.
The definition of art which was proposed by GH involves 
the integration of psychoanalytic with more recent theories 
for associated fields. He identified the following assump­
tions in the psychoanalytic perspective: art involves the 
expression of subjectivity (e.g., fantasies, mental imagery, 
conscious and unconscious thoughts) into something exter­
nal, an object that as a result contains subjective elements 
(e.g., symbols). Simultaneously the externalized subjectiv­
ity (the art work) is manipulated according to a dynamic 
relationship that it has to the artist’s ever changing subjec­
tive experience. One crucial aspect, generally overlooked by 
psychoanalysts is the artist’s perfection of the artwork, and 
the relationship of the quality of the artwork to the artist’s 
inner life, especially his aesthetic needs and motivations. He 
believes that it is the element of “perfecting” that distin­
guishes art making from other psychological processes such 
as dreaming, symptom formation, and other psychological 
defenses and mechanisms.
Art and the Brain
The speaker noted the remarkable consistency between 
the psychoanalytic understanding of art and the findings 
of other sciences. Current research into the biological 
and evolutionary sources of art were mentioned, notably, 
the role of brain function and structure in the production 
and enjoyment of art. Of special note was that the brain 
actively constructs perception and seeks to organize forms 
of experience according to some limited set of principles. 
Several neuroscientists mentioned in this talk were credited 
with beginning to develop models of art as an activity of the 
brain and mind that seeks to organize thinking, feeling and 
experiencing in special ways that enhance adaptation and 
optimize creativity. 
One neurologist, Semir Zeki (1998), argues that the hu­
man brain is designed to construct a sense of order in the 
midst of an ambiguous and ever changing environment. The 
artful brain develops conceptual ideals, cognitive forms that 
are felt to capture the essence of certain expectable, familiar 
experiences. “One of the functions of art is an extension of 
the major functions of the visual brain.” (Seki, 1998)
Committee for Creativity & Transformation in Clinical Practice
Spring 2011    13
George Hagman, LCSW, is a 
psychoanalyst in private and public 
practice in New York and Connecticut. 
A graduate and member of NPAP, he is the 
author of Aesthetic Experience: Beauty, 
Creativity and the Search for the Ideal 
(Rodopi, 2005) and The Artist’s Mind: 
Creativity, Modern Art and Modern Artists 
(Routledge, 2010).
Sandra Indig, LCSW-R, LP, ATR-BC, Chair of the Committee for 
Creativity & Transformation, is an exhibiting painter and Artistic 
Director of the Abingdon Square Painters, associate of Dances for 
a Variable Population, and writes for E-Zine, Manhattan Arts. 
She maintains a private practice in New York City. 
Another brain researcher, Erich Harth (1995), offers 
an explanation for why art developed and its function in the 
evolution of the human brain. We noted Harth’s argument 
that the origin of art is the same as that of language: the 
human brain had evolved such an ability and capacity for 
cognition and various levels of memory that there was a 
need for thinking to be aided by special symbolizing func­
tions. GH emphasized Harth ‘s observation that the tension 
between new perceptions and the memory based images 
that are structured into the brain — in many instances what 
the brain wants to see, or thinks it should see — powerfully 
influences what a person believes he or she perceives. In this 
process internal fantasies and external realities interpen­
etrate and co-construct.
Harth believes that early Homo sapiens began to engage 
in making art as a result of the expanded complexity of the 
frontal lobes. This more powerful neural circuitry had enor­
mous adaptive value. In particular it allowed for the creation 
of mental imagery (based on perception but elaborated and 
structured in the mind). However, the features of selectiv­
ity and exclusivity of attention, which allows us to focus and 
understand specific items, also limits the range of cognitive 
tasks we are able to perform. In other words, flooded with 
“ghostly and evanescent mental imagery” (Harth, 1995: 75), 
we also had trouble sustaining our thought processes, or 
thinking about more than one thing at a time. As a result, 
people needed to develop a means to sketch ideas and store 
them externally.
Memory traces, mental images, which are constructed 
from experience and internalized in working memory, are 
externalized by means of artistic expression (visual images, 
language, sound, sculpture). Thus the mental becomes an 
object of perception and manipulation. As a result internal 
cognitive processes interact with external meaning and imag­
ery, and both domains are further elaborated and refined.
In other words art is not just a reflection of the function­
ing mind, it is a way that people think, feel, imagine as well 
as solve problems, internally and externally. In making art 
the mind expands beyond the physical brain. Externalized 
thoughts become the object of the brain’s own manipulation, 
which somewhat paradoxically increases the mind’s complex­
ity and efficiency. When this process is communicated and 
engaged by the brain and its product, the mind, the brain 
becomes elaborated exponentially. In art we augment out 
brain power and improve our minds.
Language and art making are linked to the physical struc­
ture and operation of the brain. The production of aesthetic 
experience (the role of line, shape and color recognition in 
the activation of emotions), and the need to organize and 
structure perception are both embedded in the design of the 
brain and the process of adaptation and survival. But more 
importantly, art expands cognition through the construc­
tion of a transitional world of symbols, the manipulation of 
which allows for an enhanced capacity to think, imagine and 
problem solve.
The Evolutionary Origins of Aesthetic 
Experience and Art
This segment of GH’s talk came in the form of a challenging 
question, “How did art help individuals survive, and how can 
an evolutionary point of view add to the psychoanalytic and 
neurobiological understanding of what art is?”
A growing international and interdisciplinary research 
project into the evolutionary and neurobiological sources of 
art and experience has resulted in new understandings of 
what art is and where it came from. Many now recognize that 
human beings can be called Homo aestheticus (Dissanyake, 
1992) given the important role of the arts throughout human 
history, but also more importantly in the central role the arts 
play in our psychological, social and relational lives.
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14   The Clinician
GH went on to develop this line of thinking by referring to 
the anthropologist Ellen Dissanayake who suggested that the 
common denominator for the behavior of art is the quality of 
“making special” or “elaborating.” Paraphrasing her observa­
tions, GH noted how the artist transforms an ordinary experi­
ence into something extra-ordinary. For example, common 
behaviors or sensations are exaggerated, patterned, embel­
lished, repeated, or otherwise emphasized and refined. One 
can see this in the rhythms and rhymes of words turned to 
poetry, the patterns and repetitions that turn speech to song, 
the design and color schemes that turn visual display into 
paintings, etc. In fact Dissanayake argues that making special 
is the defining characteristic of all art, throughout history. 
Hagman notes the similarity between the notion of “making 
special” and the psychoanalytic concept of “Idealization.”
GH paused to again pose a mind expanding question, 
“What are the sources of this human desire and need to 
make things special?” A number of associations by the group 
were considered before returning to Dissanayake’s perspec­
tive on this question. She argued that at the point in evolu­
tion when human beings began to make art, they drew on a 
“behavioral reservoir” of innate capacities and sensitivities 
that had evolved originally between adults and their babies. 
She explained how the special communicative techniques 
between baby and adult function even to the present day to 
assist in communication, attachment, heightened emotion, 
shared awareness of special events and qualities of the 
world, and help to form the primary psychological bond that 
becomes the well and template of social and cultural life. 
Art is the elaboration and expansion of these early proto­
aesthetic experiences and art’s function in the adult human 
world to address and satisfy psychological and emotional 
needs: to stimulate feelings of belonging, to provide a sense 
of meaningfulness and cognitive order to individuals.
Given the findings of evolutionary aesthetics we moved on 
to examine the matrix of art and aesthetic experience in the 
early attachment relationship, and the way in which the self, 
the mind, and artistic creation are interrelated.
The Importance of Attachment: 
Adaptation and Survival
GH provided us with a most refreshing review of attachment 
theory from an evolutionary aesthetic perspective. He began 
with stating that the readiness for an aesthetic response to 
attachment behaviors is biologically based. Infants are born 
wanting certain visual, vocal, and movement behavior, com­
monly known as “baby talk.” In response to the appropriate 
stimulus the baby spontaneously experiences the interaction 
according to some specific forms of aesthetic structuring 
that is built into the brain and evoked and organized in re­
sponse to interaction with attachment figures. These interac­
tions have formal structure (shape, color, rhythm, line, tone, 
etc.), which are affectively charged, formalized, repetitious, 
elaborate, and manipulated for surprise (Dissanayake, 2000). 
Most importantly protoaesthetic interactions increases 
excitement and positive feeling between parent and child for 
each other.
In summary, proto-aesthetic experiences enhance the self 
and the self-in-relation to the other. They are pleasurable and 
reinforcing. Over time proto-aesthetic experiences becomes 
organized and elaborated into more mature forms. Hence 
these early modes of experiencing do not disappear; rather 
they continue to make up a set of background, procedural 
memories that color all subsequent experiences. Thus hu­
man life acquires and retains an aesthetic dimension that in 
general is positively charged.
As the child’s sensibility comes into interaction with the 
social world, he or she elaborates and organizes higher level 
forms of aesthetic feeling into what will become mature aes­
thetic understanding and appreciation. In the experience of 
mature forms of art proto-aesthetic experience is a dimen­
sion of the person’s appreciation of the artwork.
It is clear that art-making has clear adaptive value, given 
the powerful impact it can have on the quality of self-expe­
rience, social relations and communal integrity and vitality. 
Most importantly art infuses culture with the affective charge 
of secure attachment — it helps to provide the experience of 
relationships in a community with a feeling of security and af­
fective resonance. A society that utilizes art making through­
out the community and in response to many different events 
tend to be well functioning and effective. Its members tend 
to have a greater probability of survival. Relationships that 
share the enjoyment and/or creation of art tend to be more 
stable, vital and creative — also enhancing survival. Finally 
individuals who enjoy making art tend to be better integrated 
into the community, receive admiration and support from 
others, and enjoy a higher quality of self-experience.
 
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A
s hoped for, our modified committee name has opened 
the floodgates to new and returning members. It has 
been wonderfully energizing and most generative for 
all to be part of a re-awakening to our well received and very 
well attended workshops/presentations. Interest in new ideas 
for ways of expanding our outreach efforts have increased 
and members from other committees have joined in our 
activities in unprecedented numbers.
Events
From this past October to this past January, the Committee 
presented three very well received events. 
On October 10, Dayle Kramer, LCSW, LP presented 
“Observing and Seeing: The Art of Attunement with 
Yourself and Your Patient.” She focused on the similarities 
between the art of listening, observing the patient, and 
making art. Through the use of basic drawing exercises 
and discussion, participants experienced an increased 
connection to their creative core and the similarities of 
sitting with a patient.
Our meeting on November 14 brought us Ann Rose 
Simon, LCSW on “How Can Neuroscience Inform our 
Practice: Reclaiming Creativity and the Self.” This 
workshop provided us with a brief but extremely well 
researched overview of the recent findings in neuroscience 
research which support some of the psychotherapeutic 
concepts that we utilize in our practices.
George Hagman, LCSW, on January 9 presented a 
wonderfully interactive talk on “The Artful Brain: 
Survival Through Creativity.” We explored enhancement 
of brain functioning and the psychological nature of art as 
well as subjective states including survival through creativity. 
(Reviewed in this issue.)
On February 21, Joy E. Sanjek, LCSW hosted “Abstract 
Expressionist New York” at the Museum of Modern Art. 
We saw paintings and sculpture from the 1950s which focused 
on personal expression above all else. Some of the artists 
central to that era are Jackson Pollock, Willem de Kooning 
and Mark Rothko.
Upcoming Workshops and Presentations
March 13
Paul Giorgianni, LCSW, BCD: “Objects in the 
Psychotherapy Environment” This workshop will explore 
the use of displacement and projection by both patient and 
therapist in the service of communication. Case examples of 
the use of objects in the therapist’s office will be given.
May 15
Helen Hinckley Krackow, LCSW, BCD: “Mirrors of the 
Soul: Evoking the Unconscious Body Image through 
Hypnosis” This workshop will demonstrate the use of clinical 
hypnosis and psychodynamic theory in working with clients’ 
unconscious representations of self. The technique for ac­
cessing this material will be demonstrated and opportunities 
to participate will be offered to workshop attendees.   
WHERE AND WHEN: 
Sundays from 11:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. 
(Registration starts at 10:45 am)
150 Fifth Avenue, Suite 900 
(Between 18th and 19th Streets)
Suggestion: Please leave 30 minutes for evaluation 
and networking.
CONTACT: 
Sandra Indig, Chair, to verify address and 
to reserve a seat: 212-330-6787
Committee for Creativity & Transformation in Clinical Practice
by Sandra Indig, LCSW-R, LP, ATR-BC, Chair
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Chapter Reports	
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Rockland Chapter
Beverley Goff, President
The Rockland Chapter has been trying innovative 
new additions to our monthly presentations held at 
St. Thomas Aquinas College. 
We have been enjoying film presentations 
and lunch discussions afterwards, as well as our 
Clinical Case/Topic Discussions before monthly 
programs, where colleagues talk about issues and 
countertransference feelings and feel supported 
by each other. We are continuing our mentorship 
groups with advanced social work students from 
NYU in Rockland.
On March 20, we will offer a Conference/Day 
Training in two parts: 1) “Treating Self-Injuring 
and Self-Harming Patients “and 2) “Working with 
the New DSM V.” Please check the Rockland 
Chapter section the Society website for upcom­
ing events open to all, or feel free to contact 
our President.
Beverley Goff, bevgoff@optonline.net 
Queens Chapter
Fred Sacklow, President
The Queens chapter has been busy with monthly 
Board meetings and monthly educational presenta­
tions. Please look for your listserv notices and/
or on the website notices for news about our 
presentations. 
We are happy to welcome two new Board 
members to our ranks. They are husband and wife 
team Robert Hazelton, LCSW and Nancy Hazelton, 
LCSW. They lead New Bridge Employees Assistance 
Services located in Levittown. Beginning as speak­
ers, they became members, and are now active on 
the board. More information about them is avail­
able at www.eaplife.net. 
Meeting Recap
In September, 2010, Susan Klett, LCSW, spoke about 
“The Transformative Experience of a Transference 
Interpretation Viewed Through the Lens of an 
Object Relational Perspective.” In November and 
December, we heard from Brian Quinn, LCSW, Ph.D. 
on “Diagnosing and Treating the Bipolar Patient.”
In January, our own Jeanne Friedman, 
LCSW, shared her knowledge about 
“Dissociative Disorder. “ For more informa­
tion visit www.sidran.org. In February, Crayton 
Rowe, MSW, BCD, presented “Undifferentiated 
Self-Object Transference.”
We have more exciting presentations to 
come on March 20, April 17, May 15, and June 
12. As always, we meet at Holliswood Hospital 
from 11:00 am to 1:00 pm. Light refreshments 
are served, and there is plenty of parking. 
Certificates of attendance are provided. Our 
listserv is active and we have time during every 
meeting for members to network and share.
Fred Sacklow, Fred99@aol.com
Metropolitan Chapter
Ariane Sylva, President 
 
The Met Chapter continues to enjoy robust 
activity, with events generously offered by and 
for members. 
By popular demand, the Membership 
Committee has provided encore presentations 
of three events:
 A workshop, offered by Committee Chair 
Richard Joelson, DSW, on the development 
of a private practice, has filled up through 
March. These are intimate gatherings of 
seven, maximum. 
The Food for Thought event, again at 
Carmine’s Restaurant, was a presentation 
by Kenneth Neumann, Ph.D., on January 25, 
“Techniques for Working with Your Divorcing 
Clients,” and was delicious and stimulating. 
The next Food for Thought presentation 
will be in April on “Eating Disorders,” by Maria 
Baratta, Ph.D., LCSW. On February 4, had 
another Member Reception, welcoming new 
and existing members to mingle and meet at 
Richard’s home. 
Looking ahead, there will be two all-day 
conferences for Met Chapter Members. Both 
are free except for a $15 lunch fee for the first 
conference:
Saturday, March 26: Expanding and 
Sustaining a Successful Clinical Practice in 
the 21st Century, with Vikram Rajan giving 
the keynote address, “Essential Marketing 
Skills to Build Your Practice.” There will be 
six workshops to choose from. This promises 
to be our largest event of the year. We hope 
all Met Chapter Members will attend. Please 
register early.
The second conference, presented by 
the Met Chapter Clinical Ethics Committee, 
will be Saturday, April 16: Professionalism and 
Ethics in Clinical Social Work. Presenting will 
be Hillel Bodek, MSW, LCSW-R, BCD, Chair of 
the State Society Ethics Committee for over 
25 years, and Eileen Ain, Ph.D., LCSW, Chair of 
the Met Chapter Clinical Ethics Committee. 
Members are invited to send to the leaders, 
in advance, ethical issues of their practices as 
material for the presenters to address. 
The Clinical Ethics Committee will meet on 
the second Friday of each month. The meet­
ings are confidential and collaborative.
The Education Committee Brunch on 
Sunday, February 6, presented by Richard 
Trachtman, Ph.D., LCSW, BCD, was “Beyond 
the Last Taboo: Talking about Money in 
Psychotherapy.” (See page article page 9.) 
The Family and Couples Practice Committee 
discussed “Sex and the Older Couple,” at their 
next meeting in February. The second part of 
the Emotionally Focused Therapy for Couples 
training, by Elana Katz, LCSW, LMFT, was on 
Friday, February 25, and will be presented on 
Friday, March 25, from 9:00 am to 11:00 am. 
To find out more about our 14 committees, 
contact any board or committee member. Find 
us at the Met Chapter section of the website: 
www.clinicalsw.org 
Lisa Beth Miller, LCSW, 917-399-6447.   
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In Memoriam
T
he New York State Society for Clinical Social Work 
mourns the passing of Jeffrey Seinfeld, our beloved 
friend and colleague at the New York University Silver 
School of Social Work. A distinguished author of many works 
on object relations theory and a frequent guest speaker at 
conferences, he will be sorely missed.
standard of professional social work practice. As the former Web 
site Committee chair and the current Listserv Committee chair, I 
have contributed to the best of my ability to this mission, specifi­
cally by increasing the networking and Internet contact between 
NYSSCSW members through the development of chapter listservs 
and working on the on-line member directory. 
As first vice president, I will continue doing what can be done 
to support and promote the practice of clinical social work. This 
is a very important professional and personal agenda for me, an 
agenda that I have pursued in the Society, and as a clinician, teacher 
and clinical supervisor. We are an old, essential profession, with a 
strong commitment to service to others. As first vice president, I 
will help develop and implement strategies to maintain our stan­
dards, bring timely information to our membership, increase our 
Internet presence and work to promote both the social work profes­
sion and our professional specialization as clinical social workers. 
My devotion and commitment is strong and is focused on helping 
the collective us.”
Second Vice President Dore Sheppard, MSW, DSW, LCSW 
Dore Sheppard is currently an Associate Professor for the New 
York University School of Social Work, teaching courses in human 
behavior and social work practice. He has a private practice in Nyack 
and in Manhattan. He is nearing the completion of his psychoana­
lytic training at the New York University Postdoctoral Program for 
Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. He is a father of three and is 
lives in Walden, NY. 
Recording Secretary Elizabeth Ojakian, MSW, LCSW, 
CASAC, CEAP
Recording Secretary Ojakian wrote: “I graduated from New York 
University in 1977 with an MSW after a few years working at the 
welfare department and in a methadone maintenance program. 
I had relocated from California to New York.
Over the past 33 years, I have worked at an inpatient psychiatric 
hospital, various outpatient mental health and substance abuse 
clinics, and at a supportive apartment program. During 28 of these 
years, I have maintained a private practice and worked in the 
employee assistance (EAP) field, which I continue to do today. 
Along the way, I attended an institute in individual psychotherapy 
(MITPP, 1982), a group therapy training program (Postgraduate, 
1990), and obtained training and certification as a Credentialed 
Alcoholism & Substance Abuse Counselor (Adelphi University, 
1986). I was an adjunct professor at Adelphi for three years and have 
taught at NYU since 1995 on a part-time basis.
Although I have been a long time member of both the NYSSCSW 
and NASW, I never seemed to find time to become active. A book 
group colleague convinced me to fill the position of secretary for 
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the Met Chapter two years ago. I went on to become secretary-trea­
surer of the Met Chapter and secretary of the State Board.
I had been feeling that it was time for me to give back to the 
profession and help guide it into the future, and my involvement 
in the Society has provided that avenue. I have also met some 
wonderful and hard working people along the way, and encourage 
all of you to join in with whatever time you have to make this a 
stronger profession.”
Member-at-Large Monica Olivier, MSW, LMSW
Monica Olivier holds a B.A. in sociology from Stony Brook 
University and an MSW from New York University. She worked 
for 15 years in case management with the Rockland County 
Department of Social Services and Catholic Charities of Rockland. 
She is currently a member of the Web site Committee and modera­
tor of the Rockland Chapter listserv. Monica is also a member of 
the New York State NASW. 
Member-at-Large Linda Wright, LCSW-R, MSW
Linda Wright has been a professional social worker for over 15 
years. She is currently in private practice in the Holliswood section 
of Queens. She specializes is marital, family, individual and African 
American women’s issues.
In addition, she has a wealth of experience as a medical social 
worker. She has worked in several level one trauma centers in the 
New York City area, dealing with the adjustment issues of acute 
or chronic medical illnesses along with various levels of crisis 
situations.
Wright is also an ordained, state-licensed minister and has 
devoted an additional section of her private practice to working 
with patients as an interfaith therapist, dealing with the issues and 
concerns of the Judeo-Christian population.
In 1990, Wright graduated from the Wurzweiler School of Social 
Work at Yeshiva University. She has also trained at the Albert Ellis 
Institute and is a member of the NASW. She is an active board 
member of the Society’s Nassau Chapter, where she serves as the 
recording secretary.  
18   The Clinician
something else. Physical money does not have inherent value, 
but only represents the value we assign to it. A piece of green 
paper with a number and a portrait of a dead president on it 
is still only a piece of paper. Ideas of money are represented 
with symbols such as dollar signs and certain beliefs are 
attached to this representation. Then people develop certain 
attitudes toward the ideas of money and, because of these 
beliefs and attitudes where money is involved, people act in 
certain ways. Some of these beliefs, attitudes and behaviors 
are mal-adaptive and cause problems for which a therapist’s 
help becomes necessary.
On the other hand, there is no denying that money affects 
not only our psyches, but also our reality. Our economy is 
based on our faith in this abstract idea of money, which 
causes it to have powerful effects on our lives. In response 
to this reality our adaptations, our way of thinking and 
feeling, our very identities are formed — sometimes in 
pathological ways. 
We also tend to use money as a tool or strategy to deal 
with other problems, in which case our use of money is our 
way of trying to adapt to these problems. 
Let me offer case studies which highlight differences 
between a client for whom money was merely a strategy for 
achieving his ends, and one for whom money itself created 
a problem. 
Case Study One: An Entrepreneur 
Sometimes the idea of becoming rich does fuel a client’s ac­
tivity. In this case, it is not the money itself, but his fantasies 
about what it will do for him, that causes problems. The first 
chapter of my money and happiness book, “So You Want to 
Become Rich,” provides a case study of a young man who I 
call Sandy, described briefly here. 
Sandy wanted to become rich and famous. In an attempt 
to do so, he started an entrepreneurial project which so 
preoccupied him that, outside of his day job, it took up all of 
his time. He invested all the money he could spare on this 
project. He was so involved that he lost contact with friends 
and become socially isolated. He assumed his girlfriend 
would want to be part of his plan to become rich, and never 
considered her needs as an individual. So she left him, which 
was the precipitating reason for his coming to therapy.
One of the things we learned during his treatment was 
that since childhood he had been very good at thinking up 
and effecting projects which would make money, and that his 
initiative in this area had gained him his father’s approval. 
Part of the underlying reason for his wanting to make money 
was to gain approval (now thought of as fame) as he had in 
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the past. Another reason was that he came from a family that 
was less wealthy than those of his cousins and schoolmates, 
and felt excluded and snubbed by them. So he also wanted to 
become so much richer and more famous than his cousins 
that they would have to envy him, as he had envied them. His 
beliefs about what money would do for him were primary. 
His attempts to make money were just strategies for gaining 
approval and for getting revenge for having been snubbed.
Case Study Two: Granddaughter of a Rich Man
A young adult woman was brought to me by her mother, who 
complained that she was too rebellious. The daughter, a 
Caucasian, was living with an African American man, which 
the mother considered a rebellion against the family. Part of 
the concern was that the daughter’s grandfather was quite 
rich and she could inherit his wealth if she did not displease 
him. If he knew what she was doing, however, it was likely she 
would be disinherited. Because the daughter was not the one 
who asked for therapy, the mother agreed to pay for her ses­
sions and, on this basis, the daughter agreed to try it out.
Although this young woman had a job, she was not finan­
cially independent. She had always relied on the family money 
for things she could not easily afford: help with her rent, a 
comfortable car, a vacation in Europe. She wanted to believe 
she could be independent, but was not willing to give up her 
reliance on her grandfather’s largess as a way to live a more 
affluent life. 
What she had not told even her mother was that she not 
only lived with her African-American “boyfriend,” but was 
actually married to him. Yet she could not bring him with her 
on visits home for fear of causing problems. And, although 
he wanted a family, she would not agree to have children for 
fear of being disinherited. Although she claimed to love her 
husband, her attachment to the family money was stronger 
than it was to him. Unlike the case of Sandy, whose problems 
were caused by fantasies about what money could do for him 
in the future, in the granddaughter’s case, it was the reality of 
the money itself that was a major cause of her problems. She 
had grown up with a cushion of wealth that, along with the 
threats of disinheritance, created in her a dependent char­
acter. The best she could do in an attempt to live a relatively 
independent life was to create a web of lies and deceit to get 
what she wanted. 
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How To Discuss Money With Clients
How can we best approach the discussion of money with our 
clients? Given the possibility that, due to the money taboo, 
clients may be made uncomfortable and resistant to talking 
about money, how direct or circumspect should we be in ask­
ing questions in this area? When and how is it appropriate to 
ask such questions? Do we need to be any more careful than 
we are when we ask other kinds of questions? And, are there 
particular techniques we can use to assist us in addressing 
money-related questions? 
In the book, New Ways to Have Conversations about 
Money with Our Clients, Judith Stern Peck wrote that she 
believes talking about money is generally problematical. She 
recommends addressing this problem by first exploring the 
client’s value system in order to lay the groundwork within 
the context of his values. While I agree that some clients are 
resistant to talking about it, I do not believe that clients are 
always so resistant to questions about their relationships to 
money. I tend to be more direct, and feel comfortable asking 
most clients about this relationship or pointing out some­
thing about how they are relating to money whenever I think 
it is pertinent and appropriate. I believe that my own comfort 
in this area allows most clients to talk with me about money 
without much difficulty.
Your comfort and confidence in your ability to raise 
money-related questions in a way the client can accept, and 
to offer clinically appropriate guidance, or even to make judi­
cious use of confrontation, will depend on your having come 
to terms with your own relationship to money. This is so that 
you can avoid acting out countertransference having to do 
with your own beliefs and attitudes about money. It will also 
depend on having learned to recognize the client’s comfort 
level and to understand the various ways that money can 
affect a person’s development and adaptation. This requires 
developing self awareness, as well as educating yourself 
about money as a psychological force. There are a variety of 
ways to develop your expertise in this area. Reading is one 
way; a bibliography is offered on my website. 
In the money and psychotherapy book, I describe six tech­
niques to help clients be more comfortable discussing money 
and to help them to gain insight into their “money person­
alities” and money-related concerns. Briefly, I recommend 
asking some questions about the client’s money history and 
relationship to money during the intake interview. This is a 
time when the client expects the clinician to be taking a gen­
eral history, so these kinds of questions are likely to be un­
derstood as being in an appropriate context. By asking such 
questions at this time, the clinician also sends the message 
that talking about money is not taboo within the treatment 
relationship. The client’s response to such questions will also 
	
give the clinician a sense of how comfortable the client is 
about answering money-related questions. Some clients will 
experience the therapist’s questions as a welcome invitation 
to talk about issues they thought were taboo, and that they 
may have otherwise avoided. 
Where it is evident that the client’s relationship to money 
is problematical and should be a focus of treatment, asking 
him to write a money autobiography to be shared with the 
therapist is another useful technique. It can help both of you 
to become aware of how his money-based beliefs and at­
titudes were formed and how this affects him in the present. 
In my book, I include a detailed outline which a client can use 
as a guide for writing such an autobiography. I also suggest 
several questions that can be asked or exercises that can be 
used, when appropriate, to draw out information about the 
client’s wishes or memories having to do with money. 
One technique that is often used in child therapy, but 
which I use with adults as well, is to ask what the client would 
wish for if a genie suddenly appeared and granted him three 
magic wishes. In my experience, the client often wishes for 
money. When this happens, it offers the opportunity to ask 
follow-up questions such as, What would you do with the 
money? or What would having the money do for you? Some­
times the answers can be quite revealing. One client may 
want money to help someone else, while another may want it 
to support himself in splendid isolation, and a third may talk 
about his desire to go to school or start a business. Thus, this 
question can lead to an understanding of a client’s level of 
relatedness, narcissism or aspirations.
Similarly, asking a client for his earliest memory about 
money can often reveal a lot about his core concerns. 
One client told me that her father held a dollar bill in his 
fist and told her she could have it if she could get it from 
him. She tried to pry his fingers open and begged him to 
open his hand, to no avail. When, as a last resort, she tried 
biting his hand to get him to open it, she was spanked. 
This told me something about why she always thought of 
men as withholding.
Summary 
In this article, I discussed the money taboo in the clinical 
work and writing in our profession, giving particular note 
to how difficult it is for private practitioners to think or talk 
about money except in relationship to the fee. I have empha­
sized the importance of thinking about money as a psycholog­
ical force affecting our clients’ development and adaptations. 
I have offered suggestions about some techniques we can 
use to make it easier to talk about money in psychotherapy, 
and shared some brief case vignettes.   
20   The Clinician
What Art Is: An Integration 
GH introduced this section by sharing what he had gleaned 
from his extensive research on art and survival. Namely, that 
art is a psychological process that a person engages in as 
part of a special type of interaction with the world. During 
the initial phase of the creative process artists invest the 
world with subjectivity — he does this with a particular 
type of gesture (e.g. a swipe of paint on a canvas, a writ­
ten phrase, a series of notes, etc). This new element, the 
artist’s externalized subjectivity, becomes the focus of the 
artist’s creative attention and work. Susanne Langer simi­
larly describes how the artist creates “expressive form, or 
apparent forms expressive of human feeling”. However this 
process becomes art only when the internal subjectivity of 
the artist engages the external subjectivity of the new object 
in dialectic during which inner and outer subjective elements 
interact and change each other — gesture follows and builds 
on the previous gesture, the artwork gradually crystallizing as 
a network of gestures. The direction of change in the artwork 
is always towards perfecting, or “making special”. As a result 
of this the artist’s subjectivity is expressed, elaborated and 
refined. The artist who engages in such a psychological pro­
cess does so by making use of certain types of opportunities 
to create art. Art making involves the externalization of the 
artist’s subjectivity. He or she accomplishes this transforma­
tion through gesture.
Gesture is important to the experience of the self. Our 
bodies, words, behaviors, ever changing and loaded with 
emotion and intension, are observed and linked to who 
we are, and most importantly who we are in the minds of 
others. In other words, gestures are fundamentally implicit, 
procedural forms of self-experience, and hence we may not 
be conscious of the meanings of our gestures, given that 
gestures are linked to emergent and preconscious expres­
sions of self-in-the-world. Most importantly it is gesture in 
vocalizations, body movement, and facial expressions that is 
the means by which we communicate self-states, and influ­
ence each other’s internal representational worlds.
 Throughout life the creative person, the artist, channels 
his or her unique reparatory of gestures into the disciplines, 
methods, and contexts of his professional training and 
practice. The artist brings to that gesture a practice of rec­
ognition and selection built on a lifetime of experience. The 
deepest sources of gesture are in the spontaneous, physical 
processes and response to living. They come to reflect who 
we are in body and mind as they are molded in the crucible of 
relationships, in education, and are further refined through 
knowledge, discipline, practice, criticism and appreciation. 
For the artist gesture is the vehicle of meaning, fully integrat­
ed into craft and elaborated by creative effort. At the same 
time he/she allows her/his body and mind to respond, to 
react, to make mistakes. This flexibility creates the readiness 
for new, as yet unseen, gestures, and the creation of condi­
tions which allow for surprise. When we say that art begins 
with the externalized subjectivity of the artist we are not just 
talking about feeling, or emotion.  
The artist’s subjectivity is the personal experience of 
being. It is the sense of self both in terms of body but also 
being-in-the-world. In this sense the artist is just like us: all 
human actions have a subjective signature, the unique quality 
that each individual life possesses. The artist makes that 
subjective signature the focus of creative work, and by means 
of the creative process the artist’s being is articulated and 
refined. In the best of cases, we experience the artwork as 
an exquisite and powerful aesthetic experience.
A room filled with the sound of applause and the welcome 
buzz of appreciation pushed us well into the time limit of 
this wonderful meeting. George promised to answer many 
unanswered questions and queries about the research only 
lightly covered in his presentation through electronic mail. 
We concluded with more applause for the lucky winners of 
door prizes of current, relevant books in the field and a pass 
around of the presenter’s books in print.  
Selected References:
Dissanayake, E. (1992). Homo Aestheticus: Were Art Comes from and 
Why. New York: The Free Press.
Dissanayake, E. (2000). Art and Intimacy: How the Arts Began. Seattle 
and London: University of Seattle Press.
Dissanayake, E. (2009). The artification hypothesis and its relevance 
to cognitive science, evolutionary aesthetics and neuroaesthetics. 
Cognitive Semionics, #5:148-173.
Harth, E. (1995). The Creative Loop: How the Brain Makes a Mind. 
Reading MA: Addison-Wesley Press.
Zeki, S. (1998). Art and the brain. Daedelus, Vol. 127. 
 
Special thanks to Joy Sanjek, LCSW, for hosting this meeting 
at her office. She and Sema Gurun, LCSW-R, are Workshop 
Committee members.
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Containers:
Box 2, Folder 24
Resource Type:
Periodical
Rights:
Image for license or rights statement.
In Copyright - Educational Use Permitted
Date Uploaded:
December 21, 2018

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