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|Schamore

Representative Schamore (2/4/15) (mtg lasted
labout 30 minutes with Kirk Bloodsworth and
IShekinah Lavalle)-Schamore knew who we
were and had looked up Kirk before we got
Ithere. He had asked someone from the LRC
lcome over and take a picture with him and Kirk
lwhile we were there. He listened very closely to
Kirk's story and was visibly interested in the
lconnections between his story and the faulty
pieces of KY’s system addressed by the ABA
report. He made several comments disparaging
lawyers and prosecutors especially. Rep.
Schamore had a strong reaction to a brief
ldescription of Mike VonAllmen's story. | think a
Imeeting with Mike could be useful in getting him
Ito cosponsor, but | doubt it's necessary in
Iconvincing him. He made a point of telling us
Ithat he is not Conservative. He also mentioned
racial disparities in sentencing. Kirk thinks he’s
ldefinitely with us, | think he is very likely with us
lbut may need some convincing to step out about
it.

[3/8/17 - Delahanty reports he with us on
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IBob Heleringer met with him 10/1 and reports he
|seems with us but probably won't take any kind
lof lead and probably not want to vote unless
Ithere is some certainty the Senate would take up
Ithe bill. Not Catholic but very knowledgeable
labout Catholic teaching on death family. Has
Catholic family members.

IMike VonAlimen
Ineeds to be in next
Imeeting with him.

ID J

Johnson

[3/8/17 - Eklund, Delahanty, VonAlimen, Darnell
report he is very supportive; possible co-
lsponsor; suggested Fugate, Castlen and Moore
las potential YES votes. More constituents need
to contact him.

Melina.

Prunty

|Catholic, prolife - Spoke of her opposition at a

\Catholics @ the Capitol event in Jan 2017.

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Jason

ILAST_ NAME
Petrie

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lin a Jan 2017 meeting with Jason Nemes I was
told that Rep. Petrie will vote to abolish, though
lhe still supports the death penalty in principle.
IBut, he cannot support how it is administered.

|3/8/17 - Ben Griffith describes that he on the
fence to a soft YES.

lHere is yet another report. This time from
lHeleringer. | will keep him in the YES column,
lbut know that is not solid. - lawyer, who
lapproached our discussion as two attorneys
ldiscussing the finer points of some legal theory;
lhice guy; open to talking but he said up front that
lhe won his seat by painting his opponent as a
liberal, including, | think he was implying, her
|support for abolition. Having an anti-death
position would not be “in sync" (his words) with
his conservative district. He strikes me as
lanother guy who might benefit from a discussion
lwith some abolition folks in his area and the
more prominent they are the better, was my
lotally subjective impression. He represents
[Todd and Logan counties down on the
[Tennessee border. A gut feeling of mine says
he's winnable at some point. Not nearly as
bloodthirsty as our friends Rep. Morgan (above),
\Joe Fischer, and Stan Lee.

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25 jgim Duplessis Rep. Duplessis (2/11/15) (Meeting lasted about [I

|20 minutes, Shekinah Lavalle and Mike Von
|Allmen) Pretty much off the bat, Duplessis told
lus that he was a pro-life conservative who
|doesn't believe in the death penalty. Mike
Ishared his story and he was concerned about
ithe fact that the eyewitness testimony was so
Hallible. He wants to read the bill and he
lspecifically wanted to know what Rep. Moore
thought. He said that Moore is a “leader in our
lcaucus” and that if moore was on board, he'd be
Imore inclined to co-sponsor the abolition bill as
lwell. He was careful to say that he cannot
|support a bill that he hasn't read, but as he won't
lind any surprises, I think we can count him as a
I'yes” vote. | pointed out that Floyd sponsored
Ihe bill and he said that that was “a big plus” for
him.

lat a Catholic parish in his district, he said that he
lhad surveyed his constituents a few years ago
land found them overwhelmingly supportive of
Ithe death penalty. He said he couldn't go against
his constituents. There was a good discussion
land a couple of us pointed out that it usually
Imakes a big difference if you ask the question in
ldifferent ways, that when people are aware that
life without parole is an option, they usually go
lwith that over the dp. He promised to include
janother question on the issue in his next survey
Ito see if there has been any movement. I'm not
lsure if he is going to change the wording of the
question or not.

Kate says Sabrina met with him.

INov 4 2015: Names of others present (use back
lof page if necessary)

ISister Lydia Falzon, Sister Lucilla Mangion,
[Darlene Livers, Allisin Stull, Margaret McCoy
IShirley Beavin, Cindy Humphrey, John Beavin,
Greg Beavin, Huschell Hardesty.

IPLEDGED TO VOTE YES

[The historical talking points were mentioned only
iin the context that... “You and | both know the
lalking points. We aren't really going to spend
lmuch time on them.”

lWe are going to talk about the fact that all of us
lhere at one time, because of the severity of a
particular crime, has felt the death penalty would
have been acceptable. We are all normal.
Nothing unusual about that feeling, but our

{scripture invites us to “be better than that.”

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|Thomas J.

ILAST_ NAME
Burch

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[Supports abolition

Summer 2014 - Miriam, Shekinah - Tom Burch
is with us and spent most of our time talking a lot
labout women’s reproductive health rights. He
lsaid that he supports treatment for drug abusers
land drew a connection between this issue and
Ithe death penalty by saying that a lot of times
lpeople get into bad situations that escalate and
Ithey just need some support to get out. He did
talk a bit about “black on black crime” saying that
lwe had to find a way to get ‘those people to stop
killing each other” (ugh). He said that he regrets
lvoting to reinstate the death penalty in the 70's
lbut that back then, they didn’t know as much
labout how bad the system would be. He grew
lup in an abusive home, which he alluded to
lseveral times and again drew connections
lbetween that type of violence and murder, he
talked about how passionate/enraged people
lcan become and then do stupid things. He said
Ithat he'd vote to abolish the death penalty but
{that he will not cosponsor a bill with David Floyd.

Jason

INemes

IMary Lou

IMarzian

[Abolition Supporter

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Jim

Wayne

[Abolition Supporter

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Jerry

Miller

[During 2015 session David Floyd reported to
kate Miller that Jerry Miller is with us; Jan 27, ‘16
lemail from Carlos Malave confirms this position.
IBob Heleringer met in in summer 2017 and he
Iconfirms he will support if it gets to floor.

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McKenzie

[Cantrell

Eklund & Lauter visited 2/22/17 - Supportive
because of how it is applied. Needs to hear from
|constituents.

[Dennis

IHorlander

[2001 - “things are changing - victims changing":
|4/2014 told Pat he would vote to abolish.

(3/12/14 Kate Mudd, Sabrina Butler) For the
[Death Penalty, though he promised to poll his
ldistrict and see what they think. He asked for
lollow up materials which were sent to him.

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Attica

[Scott

[Supports abolition. Made video

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l42 Reginald K. Meeks [Abolition Supporter - (2/4/14 Shekinah, Michael [1
\VonAllmen) Focused a lot on Michael's story,
Ithinks his DNA collection bill is a good solution to
wrongful convictions. Wants racial breakdown
lon KY and Nationally (though we explained that
IKY’s race data doesn’t show a strong bias).

16 [Said he'd vote to abolish but did not seem
interested in co-sponsoring. (Told Pat Delahanty
lhe didn’t care for the sponsor David Floyd and
Ithat's why he is not co-sponsoring.)

laa Darryl JOwens [Abolition Supporter - 2/18/16 Rep. Owens 15 __ |i
Imin, Ben, Miriam, Luke, Joyce, Jane, Shekinah
[The group began by thanking Rep. Owens for
|supporting the bill and giving it a hearing. Ben
lasked how we could help move the bill along and|
lOwens suggested meeting with Judiciary Cmte
members. He said he viewed the hearing as
leducational, but did confirm that Floyd wanted a
lvote and said he'd get one. He asked whether |
lwas the head of the “whole operation” meaning
IKCADP and | told him that Pat was. He wanted
lus to tell Pat that he asked if Pat was a part of
lanything he wasn't the head of. He took photos
lwith the group, was overall very friendly and
helpful. He said that the hearing would happen
learly March.

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Joni L.

ILAST_ NAME
Jenkins

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[1999 - Going to think and pray. Jane Walsh can
lwork on her. 2003 - Can support all remedial; will
lapproach Stumbo about cost and process;
IStandford helps her. 8/15/2014 Randy Steidl and
I (Kate Miller) met with Joni at her office at JCTC.
Randy shared his story and Joni appeared to be
listening closely and asked good follow up
lquestions. She has gone back and forth on the
issue because of the Stanford killing. She
recalled a vote in A&R that had something to do
lwith the budget and funding the death penalty.
lAfter being pressed she said she would have to
\go with her faith on this one and vote for
labolition. Later she affirmed if there were a death|
lpenalty bill in front of her she would vote for
labolition

IShe brought up concern for the family members
lof murder victims and pointed out how hard the
lappeals process can be on them. She mentioned|
lher history as a victim advocate and how that
lshaped her opinion. She also brought up her
lconcern (thought not well researched, she said)
lwas for corrections officers’ safety if we did not
have a death penalty to hold over inmates
head's. Randy explained that from his
lexperience the better behaved inmates were the
lone’s doing life sentences as they just wanted to
|carve out a little bit of normalcy.

Fleming

[Bob Heleringer met in late June with him. Ken's
lon the fence, although he told me he's "leaning
lagainst” the death penalty, at which point |
|chastised him a little bit for being weasly and
reminded him of his "moderate" reputation that
lhe has carefully cultivated through the years. |
Ithink if our bill ever comes to the floor, he'll be
lwith us. He danced around it a lot, “it's not being
|carried out right now," maybe it is too expensive
Ito maintain, etc. and other obfuscations. Very
lapproachable and rational. | think he's kind of
ldying to be for us, actually, but worried about
possible adverse electoral consequences.

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IChad

McCoy

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James

ICAST_NAME
[Tipton

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Representative Tipton (2/5/15) (mtg lasted about
[25 minutes with Kirk Bloodsworth and Shekinah
lLavalle)-- Tipton was very friendly to both of us
land seemed to be excited to meet Kirk. Seemed
like a “good ol” boy but in the good way-like he
lhas strong values and a deeply held
Imoral/Christian beliefs. Tipton said “I've moved
la lot on this issue over the years...and | don’t
Ithink we have the right to take away the time on
learth that someone might have to find Jesus and
repent’. So, | think he's with us. I'd like to meet
lwith him again, with another religious person-—-
maybe Ruth or Miriam?

Derrick

[Graham

[Rob

Rothenburger

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ISt. Onge

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Kimberly

IMoser

lHeleringer reports: lovely, lovely woman; had a
long talk with her about abolition being part of
Ithe pro-life movement, which has always been
Imy kind of “thing,” and she agrees 100%. Has 5
lsons, all of whom are very precious to her; life is
lsacred, these are all quotes from her; she's pro-
life because she is a mother - my impression.
IShortly after we met, | saw where she co-signed
lour House bill. Would definitely want her to
lspeak on our behalf both in committee and on
Ithe floor when the time comes. She's no novice,
lcomes from a very political No. Ky family.

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[Arnold

[Simpson

l99 - used to be for dp, but race and innocence
|changed him; afraid of politics; ‘01 - will vote yes
lon abolish

CONFIDENTIAL. She supports abolition;
politically afraid to be public this year and wants
Ito get other things done. Will be public in the
lruture and may be willing to be a leader on this
issue.

Jan 31 ‘15 - publicly came out at a
\Catholic@theCapitol event in northern KY.

From a newspaper account: At Saturday's
lsession, state Rep. Addia Wuchner, R-
Burlington, said she had changed her position on
Ithe death penalty and would support phasing it
lout. She stopped short of saying she would vote
ffor such a bill, however, saying the details of
legislation could be important.

I've been thinking about this for several years,
land it has been a process for me," Wuchner told
Ithe crowd of about 80-plus people. "I've never
really thought about how we are all taking a
human life. | think we have a long way to go on
Ithis issue, and it will take a lot of education. But |
lhave changed my position now publicly for the
ifirst time."

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[Dennis

ILAST_ NAME
Keene

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2015 - Representative Keene (2/26/16 lasted
labout 25 minutes) (Michael VonAllmen and
IShekinah Lavalle were present)Representative
IKeene let us know immediately that he was with
lus. He says he’s been against the death penalty
las long as he's been a legislator. He said he
lwas excited that there's a bill and that he’d been
lunaware of it. He also had good things to say
labout Rep. Floyd and seemed to be very
interested in working with him on that bill. He
lwas very interested in Mike's story and told him
Ithat he'd use it in the future to talk about some of
Ithe issues that using the death penalty brings up.
He was glad to have talking points on LWOP
land the ABA report. He said that he likes to
work across lines of difference and | think he
Imight be a good person to develop more of a
relationship with to foster conversations between
Ithat block of NKY legislators who are “pro-life”.

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John

|Sims Jr.

[3/8/17 - Eklund, VonAllmen report he is a strong
lyes for abolition. Could use constituent calls

lHelering report differs from above. Not sure
what date Bobby met with him. non-committal;
ldoesn't seem to have ever thought about the
issue; seems reluctant to discuss for some
reason; nice guy; | think he'll be in this seat for
lawhile; we might want to see if we know
lanybody in his area that he would trust implicitly
land might be persuaded by; he lives in Fleming
County and also represents Mason, Robertson,
land Bracken counties. if we have folks in those
lanonymous areas, ll really be impressed!

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George

ILAST_ NAME
Brown

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Rep. Brown (2/11/15) (Meeting lasted for 25
Iminutes, Shekinah Lavalle and Mike VonAllmen)
Rep Brown is still opposed to the death penalty.
He thinks we make mistakes and that the
|system is racially and otherwise biased. He
lsounded like he might co-sponsor the cost study,
but | think he'll need a reminder. He's a definite
I'yes” vote, though.

Susan

lWestrom

{3/12/14 Representative Susan Westrom — met
lwith Sabrina Porter and Kate Miller — leaning
towards yes. KCADP was unable to schedule a
Imeeting with Representative Westrom in
ladvance but upon entering the Annex we ran
iinto Representative Westrom who invited us to
her office.

IShe was very welcoming and eager to hear
lSabrina's story. She also took the time to share
lsome her own story. What it was like being a
lsingle mom, what her relationship was like with
lher only daughter. Representative Westrom also
ltook some time to talk to us about issues that are|
important to her including the smoking ban and
|domestic violence and human trafficking in
particular. She was warm and sweet. She
lallowed us to take a picture an also had her staff
person take a picture. Sabrina shared her story
land Representative Westrom listened and asked
lgood questions. She seemed to be touched by
ISabrina's story and said that ultimately, if this
lcame to a vote she believes she would vote in
lravor of abolition.

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Chris

ILAST_ NAME
Harris

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Rep. Harris Ben, Joyce 15min - Rep Harris took
la while to absorb why we were there. He took
|some notes of some statistics on the use of DP
nationally. He seemed not to know about the
|ABA report. He asked how many executions
Ithere have been in Kentucky. Finally, when
lasked if he was going to support 203, he made
|some reference to being a Democrat and that he
lwas going to support this bill. He was hopeful
Ithat a vote would be taken and that the bill would
Ireach the floor. He appreciated our visit, noting
that many times he gets paid lobbyists and that
just didn't mean as much at all compared to
lpeople coming with deep convictions. He asked
lus if we could take a picture with him to post on
his Facebook page.

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[Angie

Hatton

Bentley, Eklund, Rose, Delahanty met on
12/28/17 and report she is supportive; not sure
|what her district thinks; needs constituent
|support; opeds in local papers.

lHeleringer also met with her: asst. county
lattorney: prosecutor; which usually means bad
Inews for us, but she, too, will listen (she says);
lwants to see how many House GOPers would
lvote for abolition; not sure why that is significant
tor her; very pleasant woman, know you have
lhad more dealings with her than I have; have
lalso recently developed a professional
relationship with her law office in Whitesburg,
Ishe's been handling a few civil matters for my
law partner down there; will use this relationship
Ito our advantage when the time comes.

\Saw her in Whitesburg. And again on 11/3/17
|with Heleringer. She is where she is and needs
ito hear from constituents.

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|Sinnette

[04/2014 has said he will vote to abolish

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