Minutes of a tecting held Priday, March 15,
1907, at 4:00 Py,
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The meeting came to order promptly in the office of the Commission-
er of Education, all members present, and Commissioner Traper in the chair.
The minutes of the previous mecting were @Ppproved as read,
The Secretary read the following correspondence between himself
and State Architect eins,
Which had taken Place since the last neeting:
Albany, N. Ys, Jan. 29, 1907,
Dre Samuel B, Ward,
Secretary, Executive Comnittec,
Albany Normal College,
Dear Sir: -
In reply to your note of January 28th, containing resolutions by
the Exeeutive Committee of the State Normal College, the Committee
@lready aware of my views @ith respect to the design prepared by Mr.
Regarding the Proposition that I should associate with Mr.
in carrying ont this
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Ross
work, I would state thet under the statute governing
this Department, I believe this to be imposs
under the classified civil’ service,
Respectfully yours,
(Signe@) G lL. Heins
ible as all such positions are
State Architect,
Albany, N. Y., Jan. 29, 1907,
G ly Heins, Esq.,
State Architect.
My dear Sir; ~
Iam in receipt of your reply of to-day
of the State Normal College, st
ating your belief that the stat
to the Bxeeutive Committee
ute governing
your Department makes it impossible to comply with the Committee’ s: suge
gestion, on aecount of @ivil Service rules,
In the interests of hartiony and good feeling, and before any
further steps are taken, may I take the liberty of enquiring whether, in
ease the Civil Service Commission certify to you their Willingness to have
Mr. Ross employed, and you are likewise assure@ that such employment mects
with the approval of the Comptroller, you would then be @illing to have him
co-operate with you in earrying out the design preferred by the Committee? Y
It seems to me that this woul@ bring the matter squarely within the
provisions of the special get Providing for the erection of this building.
The Committee mects again tomorrow efternoon at four of elock and
I would esteem it a favor if you would send your reply to Commissioner
Traper’s office at or before that hour
Respectfully yours,
(8igned) Sami. B, Ward,
SEC. EXECUTIVE COMMITTER
Albany, ™. Y., Jan 30, 1907,
Dre Samuel B Ward,
Secretary, Bxeeutive Comnittee,
Albany Normal College.
Dear Sirse
Your letter of January 29th to Mr. Heins receivéd this morning,
Mr. Heins left for New York last evening, and will be absent the remainder
of the weck, I will bring your letter to nis attention immediately upon
his return.
Very truly yorrs,,
(Signed) J. P. 0’ Marah,
SECRETARY,
Albany, N. Y., Jan. 31, 1907,
Tre Samuel E. Ward, Secretary,
Bxecutive Committee, State Normal College,
Albany, N Y.
Dear Sirs t
Your note of dJanvery 29th has only just reached me, T am obliged
to be in and about New York for the remainder of the weck on business con=
nected with a State Commission of which I am a member,
I do not fecl at liberty to authorize the employment of ea private
architect for the Normal College, or any other State work, without affire
mative action by the Legislature. I greatly regret that we have not been
able to come nearer:to an egreement in regard to the plans for this buil-~
ding, but there are certain points on which I feel it my duty to be ine
flexible. T cannot acquiesce in any method of procedure which would be
likely to result in the overrunning of appropriations. There is a section
of the Finance law which makes this a misdemeanor on the part of any State
officer. Without going imto the merits of the design, I can state positive-
ly that in order to mect the min&mum requirements as determined by the Come
nissioner of Education, we can spend only about 18 cents per eubic foob for
the building. The exterior porticoes, ete. of Mr. Ross*® design would have
to be paid for either by an additional appropriation, or by a reduction in
the cubic contents of the building, that is the accommodations would have
to be reduced. If the latter course should be followed, it would probably
not be very long before the Legislature would be asked to make an appro
priation for adding to the building which, in the long run, would amount
to the same thing as an additional appropriation now.
It is greatly to be regrétted that the statutes gnder which we are
Working make a deadlock apparently possible. The real question at issue is
whether the final responsibility and authority in matters of architectural
design rest with the Commissioner of Education and the Executive Committee,
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or with the State Architect. This question has never before come up
during my term of office, and I think it would be of advantage if it could
be settled by direct legislative enactment.
I am to be in Albany next week, and shall be glad to mect with the
Committec if they desire it.
Very truly yours,
(Signe@) G. & Heins.
State architect.
Gomuissioner Draper then stated that bill No. 728, @uthoriging the
Commissioner of Education to employ an outside architect, had been intrg@
duced into the Legislature, Hearings had been had before the Ways and
Means Committee of the Lower House and also later before a sub-committee
in which there was feee discussion of the whole matters Mr. Ross was also
present at the last mecting. The following agreement Was finally reached
and handed to the Secretary of the Executive Committee by the Chairman of
inch
the sub-committee. At the same time Beeretary ot) Heins presented to the
Secretary of thé Executive Committee the Ross plens for their consideration
and action in accordance with the agreement.
MEMORANTUM OF AGREEMENT MADE AT A CONFERENCE HELD AT THE WAYS AND
MEANS COMMITTEE ROOM IN THB GAPITOL, AT ALBANY, ON THE BVBNING OF MARCH 15TH, 1907
PRESBNT:
HON, Sherman Moreland, Chairman of Ways and Means Committee,
Messrs. Rogers, Patton and G Hy Whitney, being the sub-committee of
the Ways and Means Gommittec.
Hone George Lewis Heins, State Architect,
Thomas W. Finegan, representing the Commissioner of Education:
Dre Samuel Be Ward, representing the Bxecutive Commfttee of the Albemy
State Normal College.
Albert Randolph Ross, Architect.
ib Mr. Heins is to submit the Ross Blens now on exhibition to the
Executive Committee of the Normal College without delay, subject to such
minor modifications as may be agrecd upom
& Mx. Heins is to associate Mr. Ross with him to prepare necessary
working drawings and specifieations.of the exterior and in the supervision
of the same.
5 Mare Heins is to prepare remaining corresponding Working and engineer-
ing drawings and specifications,
4 The entire cost of the construction of these buildings shall not excec@
the amount which is available, which is about three hundred and sixty«
siz thousand ($366,000) dollars, This is understood to include all ar=
chitect’s fees except in the event of the legislature granting Mr. Heins*
pending request for additional appropriation for his department to cover
work now and heretofore charged to the account of special appropriations,
5 In the event of differences arising in the course of carrying out this
agreement, the same shall be arbitrated and determined by the subscommittee
of the Ways and Means Gommittec, consisting of Messrs. Rogers, Patton,
and G EH, Whitney,
Mr. Van Rensselaer moved that the Exeeutive Committee approve and
accept the design prepared by Mr. Albert R, Ross and submitted by State
Architect Heins. This motion Was carried unanimously,
Mr. Cogswell moved that Mr. Finegan be appointed with Mr. Van
Rensselaer to serve on the building committee to replace the late Mr. Pruyne
The motion was carried,
There being no further business the meeting adjourned,
Baud, fi. Wout,
Seeretary Executive Got.
