Minutes, 2004 August 25

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Governance 
Committee
Aug. 25, 2004
Minutes
 
Present: J. Acker, J. Bartow, B. Carlson, P. Eppard, M. Fogelman, R. 
Geer, G. 
Goatley 
(substituting for R. Bangert-Drowns), J. Pipkin, L. Schell, G. Singh, B. 
Via, J. 
Wyckoff
 
 
Minutes:  The revised minutes of Aug. 11 were approved, as additionally 
revised 
by the inclusion of two more institutions (Florida State and Rutgers) 
consulted 
by the Graduate Curriculum Subcommittee. The minutes of the Aug. 18 
minutes were 
not considered because they had been distributed only shortly before the 
meeting; those minutes will be considered for approval at the next 
scheduled 
meeting.  Professor Carlson offered clarification about two issues in 
those 
minutes relating to the Institutional Review Board (IRB).  She noted that
the 
IRB aspired to have a membership reflecting a generally proportional 
representation of academic units based both on fairness and the desire 
for 
relevant expertise. The number of proposals from the School of Education 
suggested that increased representation on IRB from that School would be 
desirable.  With respect to the reference in the minutes about faculty 
being 
“deputized” to review students’ research proposals, she explained present
and 
proposed procedures governing IRB review of in-class research assignments
that 
rely on particular sources of data.
 
Discussion then ensued about whether the committee’s minutes should be 
publicized.  It was pointed out that the invited guests who had appeared 
before 
the committee had not had a chance to review minutes relevant to their 
appearance, and it was suggested that it would be appropriate to allow 
those 
individuals to review the minutes for accuracy if the minutes are to be 
made 
public.  It also was pointed out that individual committee members might 
have 
been operating under different understandings about whether the minutes 
would be 
publicly available, since there had not been prior agreement about this 
matter.  
It was agreed that individual committee members would be polled and that 
the 
minutes would not be distributed publicly if any member objected to their
dissemination.  No committee member present at the meeting expressed 
objections 
about having the minutes publicized.  Members not in attendance at the 
meeting 
will be consulted before action is taken.  It additionally was agreed 
that the 
minutes of all committee meetings would be compiled and distributed to 
all 
committee members for further review before action is taken.  Jayne will 
be 
asked to collect and distribute the collection of minutes.  It was agreed
that 
the invited guests should be given the chance to check minutes relevant 
to their 
appearances for accuracy before action might be taken to distribute the 
minutes 
publicly.  It was contemplated that the minutes would be posted on the 
Senate 
web site if no objections are raised.
 
Anticipated Committee Report.   Professor Acker expressed his opinion 
that time 
constraints almost certainly will not allow the committee to issue a 
draft 
report, circulate it for review and comment, and then issue a final 
report after 
considering feedback, by October 1.  He suggested that the committee 
should 
attempt to have its draft report prepared by Oct. 1, and thereafter have 
the 
draft report distributed for review and comment.  He additionally 
suggested that 
the committee meet on Friday mornings after the academic semester begins,
assuming all members remain available at that time, and inquired whether 
extending committee meetings beyond two hours duration would be 
productive and 
feasible.
 
Committee members agreed that meetings should be scheduled to begin 
Fridays at 
10:30, starting Sept. 3.  There also was agreement that meetings could 
extend 
beyond two hours, and that the first meeting tentatively would be of 
three hours 
duration (if necessary).
 
More extensive discussion then ensued about the process and timing for 
developing a committee report.  It was noted that the committee’s charge 
contemplates that the committee’s report should be delivered to the 
Senate 
rather than the Senate Executive Committee (or its equivalent).  
Committee 
members agreed that a draft or preliminary report should be distributed 
to 
faculty, deans, department chairs, and other constituencies for review 
and 
comment before the committee prepares a final report and submits such 
report to 
the Senate.  Members also agreed that it was unrealistic to complete that
process in advance of Oct. 1.  It was suggested that October 1 be 
established as 
the target date for the committee to complete its draft report, which 
then would 
be circulated to faculty, deans, department chairs, and others for review
and 
comment.  It additionally was suggested that a faculty forum might be 
scheduled 
for discussion of the committee’s draft report.  Professor Acker was 
encouraged 
to confer with Professor Carolyn MacDonald in her capacity as the Chair 
of the 
University Senate regarding such plans.  
 
Different formats for the committee’s report were discussed.  One style 
involves 
listing alternative models or approaches with respect to the issues and 
sub-issues considered, without expressing views about which 
model/approach a 
majority of the committee prefers.  The other style involves listing 
alternative 
models or approaches, along with the committee’s recommendations or 
preferences 
(majority and minority viewpoints).  Preliminary sentiment appeared to 
favor 
identifying majority and minority views about issues, although it was 
considered 
prudent to withhold judgment about a specific style or format pending 
preparation of the subcommittee reports and the draft report.  It was 
anticipated that different approaches might be appropriate for different 
issues.
 
Research Subcommittee.  As anticipated, the Research subcommittee had not
completed a written draft report.  Brief discussion ensued about the 
scope of 
the committee’s charge within the general area of Research.  In response 
to a 
question, Professor Geer reported that the College of Nanoscale Science 
and 
Engineering had been especially interested in research-related issues 
including 
oversight and review of research centers and institutes.  In contrast, 
other 
issues related to research (e.g., human subjects review, FRAP awards, 
Indirect 
Cost Return funds) had not been contemplated within the context of 
increased 
autonomy in faculty governance.  Other committee members expressed their 
opinion 
that Faculty Bylaws and Senate Charter provisions relevant to research 
issues 
would be useful to help define the scope of issues relevant to the 
committee’s 
charge concerning “Research.”
 
Subcommittee on Graduate Curriculum and Academic Standing.  Jon Bartow 
distributed a handout providing information about a booklet prepared by 
the 
Council of Graduate Schools: CSG Task Force on Organization and 
Administration 
of Graduate Education (Washington, DC: Council of Graduate Schools, 
2004).  He 
explained that the report includes a discussion of the role of faculty 
governance in graduate curriculum development and oversight.  The 
committee was 
reminded that the Council of Graduate Schools is an organization that 
includes 
graduate school deans and that the report is likely to reflect 
perspectives 
shared by those deans.
 
The Subcommittee on Graduate Curriculum and Academic Standing has 
consulted 
several institutions and has discovered diverse practices regarding 
faculty 
governance in matters of graduate curriculum.  Institutions with graduate
schools and active graduate deans appear to have somewhat more 
centralized 
faculty governance structures regarding graduate curriculum issues, 
although 
there is considerable variation within institutions of this general 
nature. 
Other institutions have more decentralized, or distributed faculty 
governance 
approaches.  Greater centralization may be more typical of larger 
academic 
institutions.  
 
Issues of academic standing (and how academic standing relates to 
admissions) 
appear to be more complex at institutions that do not have graduate 
schools and 
graduate deans to act on such matters. 
 
A broad spectrum of practices is followed at other universities.  For 
example, 
at Rutgers, in principle, every course proposal is considered and voted 
on by 
the entire graduate faculty, after having undergone two prior levels of 
review.  
On the other hand, UMass-Amherst appears to follow a “hold harmless” 
policy 
whereby a department can offer a class for three years without prior 
review by a 
graduate school or council.
 
It was observed that, in practice, GAC review of individual course 
proposals at 
UAlbany almost never has produced significant problems, with the recent 
exception of course proposals made by the School/College of Nanoscale 
Sciences.  
It was suggested that it might be fruitful to study this situation more 
closely 
to learn what factors contributed to the more difficult GAC process.  
 
One member posited a hypothetical situation in which three separate 
academic 
units—e.g., the School of Criminal Justice, the School of Social Welfare,
and 
the Sociology Department—all proposed to teach similar courses in an area
such 
as deviance, or delinquency, or drug policies.  A question was raised 
about 
problems that might be encountered in such circumstances if no mechanism 
existed 
for centralized review by a body like GAC.  It was suggested that the 
hypothetical situation more directly implicated fiscal concerns than 
academic 
ones.  Presumably, each unit would have defensible academic reasons to 
make the 
respective course offerings.  It additionally was suggested that GAC 
concerns 
itself with curricular rather than fiscal issues.  On the other hand, EPC
or the 
new UPC is concerned with economic/fiscal matters, as are deans.  It was 
pointed 
out that deans would be positioned to prohibit a course from going 
forward if it 
taxed scarce resources and duplicated offerings available elsewhere in 
the 
University.  However, it also was suggested that the committee should 
point out 
that there might be fiscal implications associated with overlapping or 
highly 
similar courses being offered by more than a single academic unit.  Deans
and 
others should be alerted to this potential consequence of decentralized 
decision-making regarding graduate course approval (although it again was
suggested that GAC has not been charged with considering fiscal, as 
opposed to 
curricular implications of new course proposals).  
 
From a more “philosophical” perspective, it was suggested that academic 
departments could be characterized as discrete silos for purposes of 
channeling 
resources.  In contrast, disciplines intellectually have considerable 
overlap 
and interconnectedness.  The competing models for resource-investment and
intellectual interdisciplinariness present challenges for governance in 
curricular matters.  It additionally was suggested that issues of 
academic 
freedom are closely associated with course offerings.
 
Questions were raised about the implications of moving toward a more 
decentralized model of faculty governance in the area of graduate 
curriculum 
when “major” curriculum and programmatic changes are considered (as 
opposed to 
individual course proposals and offerings).  A reminder was offered that 
the 
State Education Department (SED) reviews major programmatic changes 
following 
whatever review occurs at the University level.  For example, when a 
proposal is 
made to create a new program, SED is required to invite comment from 
throughout 
the SUNY system.  On the other hand, it is not likely that “major 
changes” in 
programs or curricula would receive such consideration by SED.  “Major” 
curricular issues are presented when a new graduate program is created, 
and in 
theory by the termination of a program or degree, as well.  It was 
suggested 
that the termination of programs may depend principally on fiscal 
considerations, although there also may be substantive implications 
regarding 
the University’s educational mission, academic freedom, and consequences 
for 
faculty lines, including those occupied by tenured faculty members.  
Other 
academic units within the University also could experience curricular 
ramifications by the termination of a program—for example, the Philosophy
Department could be directly affected by dissolution of the German 
Department.  
 
It was suggested that it is important to define the critical point at 
which a 
decision that most directly affects one department or school/college also
has 
significant implications for other academic units or throughout the 
University 
generally.  
 
Next Meeting.  All subcommittees were encouraged to complete and 
circulate their 
reports in advance of the committee meeting scheduled for Sept. 3.  The 
reports 
hopefully can be discussed so the committee can progress toward its goals
of (1) 
identifying important governance issues within Research, Graduate 
Curriculum and 
Academic Standing, and Promotions and Continuing Appointments; (2) 
identifying 
alternative models or approaches with respect to the various issues; (3) 
ascertaining whether there are approaches/models that garner 
greater/lesser 
committee support; (4) identifying specific implications for Faculty 
Bylaws and 
Senate Charter provisions; and (5) preparing a draft report.
 

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