We are attempting to create an agent based System Dynamics model of sustainable organizational change. A framework is proposed for comparing the experience of sustainable organizational change as a means of gathering other experiences to help create the model. A significant sustainable organizational change was created at BP's Lima refinery using The Manufacturing Game that was created at DuPont using a System Dynamics model of manufacturing reliability. While this change at BP Lima has survived for over 10 years, two changes of ownership and four sets of management, the changes at DuPont and another BP asset only lived 7 years and 1 year before losing the momentum of the change. At the conclusion of this talk, we will have a panel discussion on the reasons for sustainability with audience participation.